Immoweb oplichters: fraude met appartementen te huur. Let op!

Het ver­haal van TIM gaat als vol­gt verder, heb eens een vis­je uit­ge­wor­pen om na te gaan hoe het verder ver­loopt. Hier­na de mail die de fraude wel erg duidelijk maakt.

First of all , I want to tell you that if you are ready to pro­ceed with this trans­ac­tion I will need to inform you the steps about how this ser­vice works.

You will have 5 days to inspect the apart­ment before your final deci­sion to rent. I will pay the ship­ping costs.

This is how they work :

1) I will make the deliv­ery papers at Inter­na­tion­al Home.

2) After I will make the papers for deliv­ery they will require for your pay­ment con­fir­ma­tion of the first month and the guar­an­tee deposit( 450 EUR + 500 EUR= 950 EUR ) to the com­pa­ny. The ship­ping com­pa­ny will send you a deliv­ery noti­fi­ca­tion to let you know they that have the Keys and the papers in their cus­tody, in which you will be told that they have the Keys/contract and that they checked it.

3) After the pay­ment is con­firmed the deliv­ery process will start and when you will receive the keys, you will have 5 days inspec­tion peri­od before your final deci­sion to rent.

4) If all is in order, you will instruct the ship­ping com­pa­ny to give me the mon­ey. Fur­ther rents will be sent direct­ly to my bank account.

5) If you refuse to rent the apt , Int Home will give you a full refund (950 EUR) and you will give them back the keys and the con­tract.

If you are inter­est­ed to rent the apart­ment please send me your infor­ma­tion, i will need to know your full ship­ping infor­ma­tion, full name, full ship­ping address to pro­ceed with this deal.

The deliv­ery com­pa­ny ser­vice its called : Inter­na­tion­al Home ( international-home-ltd.co.uk.tc )

Now i must know for sure if you agree because oth­er peo­ples are inter­est­ed to have this apart­ment rent­ed and i want to know for sure what i must tell them. If you agree what i sug­gest­ed i will tell them that my apart­ment is already rent­ed and i will keep it for you. If you agree then i must have all the ship­ping details so i will be able to make all the arrange­ments for the Inter­na­tion­al Home.

Thank you for your inter­est and wait news from you.

Beste allen,

Op deze web­site heb ik meerdere e‑mails gelezen, die pre­cies een kopie zijn van de e‑mails die ik heb ont­van­gen. In mijn geval heet hij Jan Veld­hui­jzen.

Het ging om een apparte­ment aan de Rue de Rouleau 7, Brus­sel. Mijn mail­con­tact met hem heeft van­daag (12 mei 2012) plaats­gevon­den. Ik had arg­waan omdat hij maar in het Engels bleef com­mu­niceren, ter­wi­jl hij een Vlaamse naam heeft en ik aan­gaf dat we ook in het Ned­er­lands kon­den com­mu­niceren. Verder kreeg ik arg­waan, omdat de pri­js te laag was en omdat hij dus ook via UPS de regeling wilde tre­f­fen.

Ik vertrouwde het niet hele­maal en begon te googlen. Ik was ook van plan om UPS maandag te benaderen, want ik ben toch wel benieuwd of dit soort ser­vices door hen wordt aange­bo­den, Ik ben heel blij dat ik deze web­site tegen ben gekomen. Inmid­dels heb ik deze oplichter gemeld bij http://www.ecops.be

Zie hieron­der zijn reac­ties.

Hel­lo,

I am Jan Veld­hui­jzen and I just received an email of inter­est in my apart­ment . I am an Bel­gian researcher work­ing for a phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal com­pa­ny . I am the only own­er of the apart­ment, it is paid in full and it has no legal prob­lems . The apart­ment has not been inhab­it­ed since I am no longer liv­ing in Bel­gium.
I wish to rent my apart­ment to some nice and respon­si­ble peo­ple and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many per­sons are you plan­ning to live in the apart­ment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. I must tell you from the begin­ning that I do not have a prob­lem if you are a stu­dent and I am very fond of pets and will­ing to accept them in the apart­ment. You should also know that I appre­ci­ate sin­cer­i­ty very much.
In addi­tion to every­thing else here is a lit­tle some­thing about the apart­ment and myself so we can get to know each oth­er.
The apart­ment is the one in the pic­tures from the advertisement.I have the option of send­ing all my fur­ni­ture into stor­age if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)
The rent for 1 month is 620 Eur (for the entire apart­ment) includ­ing all util­i­ties (water, elec­tric­i­ty, Inter­net, cable). You can rent the flat for any peri­od of time (open end con­tract) but not less than 2 months.
About myself, as I told you I am a researcher in phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal prod­ucts, cur­rent­ly liv­ing in Lon­don.
You can move in the apart­ment in the same day when you receive the keys. The only issue is that I am already in Unit­ed King­dom but I hope that togeth­er we are going to find a solu­tion.
I appre­ci­ate your inter­est in my prop­er­ty and I am look­ing for­ward to a future col­lab­o­ra­tion and friend­ship. I hope that you can send me some per­son­al infor­ma­tion about your­self.

Best regards
Jan Veld­hui­jzen

Hel­lo ,

Thanks for your reply,
That sounds great !
I must let you know that I can rent the prop­er­ty for max­i­mum 3 years. The min­i­mum peri­od is 2 months, but I’d rather like to rent it for a long term. You seem to be a very nice per­son and I can assure you we will not have any prob­lems .Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for 1 month of rent will be 620 euro and i want aslo one month guar­an­tee deposit 620 euro ( the guar­an­tee deposit 620 euro you will receive back when you leave the apart­ment ), with no extra tax­es to pay. The mon­ey, I want to recive it month­ly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no prob­lem for you to wire the mon­ey .

Of course you will have to see the apart­ment before dis­cussing fur­ther details . I am will­ing to send you the keys so you can vis­it it and see it suits your needs. The deliv­ery for the keys and view­ing per­mit (signed by me), will be made with UPS to make sure that we can trust each oth­er.
I will explain the pro­ce­dure if you are inter­est­ed so please e‑mail me as soon as you read this mes­sage because I real­ly need to take care of this mat­ter.

Regards
Jan Veld­hui­jzen

Hel­lo,
If we decide to pro­ceed with this trans­ac­tion, I will have to con­tact com­pa­ny UPS to pro­vide all nec­es­sary infor­ma­tion so they can begin the process imme­di­ate­ly. We need full name, address, tele­phone num­ber and if you have a copy of this ID. You will receive a noti­fi­ca­tion from UPS com­pa­ny short­ly there­after, with all the instruc­tions to fol­low and the invoice as well.
As regards pay­ment, will be instruct­ed to deposit mon­ey, first pay­ment a month’s rent in advance + 1 one month war­ran­ty (EUR 1240) to an account of the com­pa­ny UPS. I need to pay in advance at the com­pa­ny UPS because I’m tired of peo­ple who are just look­ing around and not seri­ous about hir­ing. UPS The Com­pa­ny will hold and secure the mon­ey until you check the apart­ment and decide if you want to take it or not. This is how their pol­i­cy works buy­er pro­tec­tion. As for me myself, I’ll be glad to know that com­pa­ny UPS has pos­ses­sion of mon­ey dur­ing the deliv­ery. This is my insur­ance. Once the funds were deposit­ed into their account, they will begin ship­ping process. The keys and rental con­tract will be deliv­ered to your address in not more than 2 days. You will be giv­en con­trol over three days from the day you receive the keys and con­tract at home. If you decide to keep the apart­ment, then you will need to autho­rize the com­pa­ny UPS to release the funds for me and the trans­ac­tion will be com­plet­ed. If you are not sat­is­fied with the apart­ment, you can send the keys and the con­tract and com­pa­ny UPS will return the funds to your same day.
Although I am sure you will love the apart­ment, it is good to know that you have this sec­ond option avail­able. If you want to con­tin­ue rent­ing the apart­ment, please tell me your name and full address so I can start busi­ness imme­di­ate­ly through the com­pa­ny UPS.
I look for­ward to hear­ing from you.
Regards.

Net dezelfde mail gehad voor een apparte­ment in Gent:

Hi,

My name is David Urban and I just received an email of inter­est in my apart­ment locat­ed in Kouter 76, 9000 Gent, with 2 bed­rooms, 1 bath­room, 1 kitchen and 1 liv­ing room. I pur­chased this nice apart­ment dur­ing a busi­ness trip to Bel­gium with the inten­tion of ren­o­vat­ing it to a lux­u­ry state, then reselling it, but due to the mar­ket block­age and the inter­na­tion­al cri­sis, it is impos­si­ble for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decid­ed to rent it. I am the only own­er of the apart­ment, it is paid in full and it has no legal prob­lems.
I wish to rent my apart­ment to some nice and respon­si­ble peo­ple and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many per­sons are you plan­ning to live in the apart­ment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. You should also know that I appre­ci­ate sin­cer­i­ty very much.
In addi­tion to every­thing else here is a lit­tle some­thing about the apart­ment and myself so we can get to know each oth­er.
The apart­ment is the one in the pic­tures from the adver­tis­ment. I have the option of send­ing all my fur­ni­ture into stor­age if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)
The rent for 1 month is 430 euro for the entire apart­ment includ­ing: elec­tric­i­ty, Inter­net, cable tv, etc.…heating will be pay by you depend of con­sump­tion. The secu­ri­ty deposit is 500 euro and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apart­ment ( you will have to give me at least 2 moths notice ). I can rent you the flat for 5 years, and if after the five years you would like to stay more, then we can renew the con­tract. I can also rent it for short peri­ods (5 months min­i­mum)
About myself, I am 37 years and I am a researcher in phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal prod­ucts, cur­rent­ly liv­ing in Lon­don, my home town .
You can move in the apart­ment in the same day when you receive the keys. The only issue is that I am already in Unit­ed King­dom but I hope that togeth­er we are going to find a solu­tion.

I appre­ci­ate your inter­est in my prop­er­ty and I am look­ing for­ward to a future col­lab­o­ra­tion and friend­ship.

Best regards,

David

Ik heb het­zelfde voorge­had:

Hel­lo,

I appre­ci­ate your intent of rent­ing my apart­ment locat­ed in : Nas­saus­traat 11, 2000 Antwer­pen , Bel­gium . The apart­ment have: 2 bed­rooms, 1 bath­rooms, 1 kitchen and 1 liv­ing room. I bought this apart­ment for my son dur­ing he stud­ies in Bel­gium, but now he’s back home ( Bris­tol / Unit­ed King­dom ) per­ma­nent­ly, so I’m rent­ing the place for unlim­it­ed time. Before we go any fur­the I would like to know a lit­tle some­thing about you, like how many per­sons you intend to live in the apart­ment, and for how long. The flat is exact­ly like in the pic­tures, ful­ly fur­nished equipped and ren­o­vat­ed. Also, very impor­tant, the util­i­ties water hot/cold, elec­tric­i­ty, heat­ing, gas, Inter­net, cable, park­ing space, dish­wash­er, garbage dis­pos­al, are includ­ed in the price of 520 Euro per month and I believe it is con­ve­nient for us both. All the bills will be paid by me and you have to pay only the mon­ey for the rent in every month. The secu­ri­ty deposit is also 520 Euro, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apart­ment ( you will have to give me at least 2 moths notice ). As for me, you can rest assured that I will nev­er ask you to leave the apart­ment. My son is build­ing him life here and now he will go with him wife in Por­tu­gal to make them bussines, and about me I am too old to move to Bel­gium, so we won’t dis­turb you. You can use my fur­ni­ture, or you can also use your own if you pre­fer. Now, a lit­tle bit about myself so we can get to know each othe bet­ter. My name is Peter Shawn and I’m a 61 years old Neu­ro-Oncol­o­gy doc­tor from Bris­tol / Unit­ed King­dom ( North Bris­tol NHS Trust ), plan­ning to retire in the next 5 years. I have no prob­lem if you will keep ani­mals. The only incon­ve­nience is that my job doesn’t allow me to leave Bris­tol even for one sin­gle day. But this won’t affect you at all. I can make arrange­ments to rent the apart­ment from Bris­tol (on my expense of course).

Thank you for your inter­est and I will look for­ward to hear­ing from you soon.

Peter Shawn

P.S: Please tell me if this is what are you look­ing for and reply my only if you are tru­ly inter­est­ed in the apt.

Deze week net het­zelfde ver­haal tegen gekomen. Ik zag een mooi apparte­ment te huur in Gent tegen een strakke pri­js op immoweb. Direct con­tact opgenomen met de eige­naar en kreeg na enkele dagen een mail van een man uit Lon­don in mijn mail­box. (zo goed als let­ter­lijk dezelfde mail zoals andere mensen kre­gen)

Ik wist van heel deze oplich­ter­i­jen nog niks en ben begin­nen mailen met de man. Hij stelde ook voor om de sleu­tels op te sturen naar Bel­gië via een inter­na­tion­al car­go. Ik vertrouwde dit zaak­je niet en heb hem voorgesteld om met een Bel­gisch Immokan­toor te werken als tussen­per­soon.. Sinds­di­en niks meer van hem geho­ord. Deze mid­dag zag ik op het nieuws wat er alle­maal aan de hand was en ben ik zo ook op deze site terecht gekomen..

Het valt mij op dat boven­ver­melde apparte­menten in Gent wel regel­matig terug keren op immoweb.. Alle­maal oplich­ter­ij? Amai!

Hier­bij de mails die ik kreeg:

Hi,

My name is Phillip Kendall and I received an email of inter­est in my apart­ment locat­ed in Marte­laarslaan 534, 9000 Gent, with 2 bed­rooms, 1 bath­room, 1 kitchen and 1 liv­ing room. I pur­chased this nice apart­ment dur­ing a busi­ness trip to Bel­gium with the inten­tion of ren­o­vat­ing it to a lux­u­ry state, then reselling it, but due to the mar­ket block­age and the inter­na­tion­al cri­sis, it is impos­si­ble for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decid­ed to rent it. I am the only own­er of the apart­ment, it is paid in full and it has no legal prob­lems.
I wish to rent my apart­ment to some nice and respon­si­ble peo­ple and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many per­sons are you plan­ning to live in the apart­ment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. You should also know that I appre­ci­ate sin­cer­i­ty very much.
In addi­tion to every­thing else here is a lit­tle some­thing about the apart­ment and myself so we can get to know each oth­er.
The apart­ment is the one in the pic­tures from the adver­tis­ment. I have the option of send­ing all my fur­ni­ture into stor­age if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)
The rent for 1 month is 450 euro for the entire apart­ment includ­ing: elec­tric­i­ty, Inter­net, cable tv.…heating will be pay by you depend of con­sump­tion. You can rent the flat for any peri­od of time (open end con­tract) but not less than 5 months.
About myself, I am 37 years and as I told you I am a researcher in phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal prod­ucts, cur­rent­ly liv­ing in Lon­don, my home town .
You can move in the apart­ment in the same day when you receive the keys. The only issue is that I am already in Unit­ed King­dom but I hope that togeth­er we are going to find a solu­tion.

I appre­ci­ate your inter­est in my prop­er­ty and I am look­ing for­ward to a future col­lab­o­ra­tion and friend­ship.

Best regards,

Phillip

Thanks for your reply,

That sounds great !

You seem to be a very nice per­son and I can assure you we will not have any prob­lems. The mat­ter is that I’m in Unit­ed King­dom already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for 1 month of rent will be 450 euro but in the first month you must to deposit 950 euro, 1 month of rent plus 500 euro for secu­ri­ty deposit pay­ment which is refund­able while pack­ing with­out any lost or dam­age of my prop­er­ties. The mon­ey, I want to revive it month­ly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no prob­lem for you to wire the mon­ey to my bank account.
Of course you will have to see the apart­ment before dis­cussing fur­ther details because you can­not rent an apart­ment that you haven’t seen. I am will­ing to send you the keys so you can vis­it it and see it suits your needs.
The deliv­ery for the keys and view­ing per­mit (signed by me), will be made through an autho­rized couri­er and using a Inter­na­tion­al Car­go is sim­i­lar to FedEx, DHL or UPS, which will han­dle both pay­ment and deliv­ery of the Keys.
I will explain the pro­ce­dure if you are inter­est­ed so please email me as soon as you read this mes­sage because I real­ly need to take care of this mat­ter.

The apart­ment is like in the pic­tures!

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Best Regards,

Woens­dag 13 Juni een mail terug ont­van­gen van jaja Peter Shawn ivm een apparte­ment voor 350 euro in Brugge. Onder­tussen is het zoek­ert­je van immoweb ver­wi­jderd.

Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:20:17 +0300
Sub­ject: Re: Immoweb — Reac­tie op zoek­ert­je Te huur
From: per.shawn49@gmail.com

Hel­lo,
I appre­ci­ate your intent of rent­ing my apart­ment locat­ed in : Malle­berg­plaats 9, 8000 Brugge. The apart­ment have: 2 bed­rooms, 2 bath­rooms, 1 kitchen and 1 liv­ing room. I bought this apart­ment for my son dur­ing he stud­ies in Bel­gium, but now he’s back home ( Bris­tol / Unit­ed King­dom ) per­ma­nent­ly, so I’m rent­ing the place for unlim­it­ed time. Before we go any fur­the I would like to know a lit­tle some­thing about you, like hed and ren­o­vat­ed. Also, very impor­tant, the util­i­ties water hot/cold, elec­tric­i­ty, heat­ing, gas, Inter­net, cable, park­ing space, ow many per­sons you intend to live in the apart­ment, and for how long. The flat is exact­ly like in the pic­tures, ful­ly fur­nished equip­pdish­wash­er, garbage dis­pos­al, are includ­ed in the price of 350 Euro per month and I believe it is con­ve­nient for us both. All the bills will be paid by me and you have to pay only the mon­ey for the rent in every month. The secu­ri­ty deposit is also 350 Euro, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apart­ment ( you will have to give me at least 2 moths notice ). As for me, you can rest assured that I will nev­er ask you to leave the apart­ment. My son is build­ing him life here and now he will go with him wife in Por­tu­gal to make them bussines, and about me I am too old to move to Bel­gium, so we won’t dis­turb you. You can use my fur­ni­ture, or you can also use your own if you pre­fer. Now, a lit­tle bit about myself so we can get to know each othe bet­ter. My name is Peter Shawn and I’m a 59 years old Neu­ro-Oncol­o­gy doc­tor from Bris­tol / Unit­ed King­dom ( North Bris­tol NHS Trust ), plan­ning to retire in the next 5 years. I have no prob­lem if you will keep ani­mals. The only incon­ve­nience is that my job doesn’t allow me to leave Bris­tol even for one sin­gle day. But this won’t affect you at all. I can make arrange­ments to rent the apart­ment from Bris­tol (on my expense of course).

Thank you for your inter­est and I will look for­ward to hear­ing from you soon.

Peter Shawn

P.S: Please tell me if this is what are you look­ing for and reply my only if you are tru­ly inter­est­ed in the apt.

2012/6/10 immoweb

De 1e vast­goed­site van Bel­gië, 134664 zoek­ert­jes in Bel­gië, 68558 zoek­ert­jes in het buiten­land, 1591285 foto’s.
Beste adver­teerder, een bezoek­er wenst meer info over Uw… Apparte­ment TE HUUR N°3736087

OPLICHTING op immoweb: Apparte­ment Nas­saus­traat 14 — 2000 Antwer­pen! Apparte­ment TE HUUR N°3783673
Email adres van de oplichter: aa2012nn@gmail.com

MAIL 1 OPLICHTER:

Hel­lo,

Nassaustraatè14/5v 2000, Antwerp
see the map below. (attached fold­er)

Thank you for your inter­est. I am look­ing for some­one to rent it as soon as pos­si­ble, because I recent­ly divorced and I’ve moved back to my coun­try in Lon­don, UK . I am cur­rent­ly locat­ed in Lon­don so the rent­ing peri­od is unlim­it­ed, it means you can stay in the apart­ment as long as you wish, there is no min­i­mum or max­i­mum peri­od required. The apart­ment looks exact­ly like in the pic­tures, it’s very clean and also full fur­nished and equipped with every­thing you need, you don’t have to bring any­thing. The rent for 1 month is list­ed in the ad, avail­able for the whole apart­ment includ­ing all util­i­ties. You can move in the apt in the same day when you receive the keys. Pets are allowed too (not recomend­ed).

I will look for­ward to hear from you. Best Regards!

MAIL 2:

The apart­ment is still avail­able, as I said I’m already in Lon­don UK and there is only one method we can make the deal right now. The total price you must pay right now will be 400 plus 400 secu­ri­ty deposit, with no extra fees . You will send me the mon­ey every month here in uk if that’s ok with you. The apart­ment is ready , all you need is to receive the keys and the con­tract to review and sign it and you can move in right away.
We will use a shipping/escrow Real Estate Agency called Tru­lia for the safe­ty of both parts, it’s a very well known and safe Agency all over Europe.

Let me explain you how the trans­ac­tion will go step by step: first, I will go to them with the keys to start the ship­ping , after that you will be noti­fied by them that the trans­ac­tion has been ini­ti­at­ed and they will send you all the instruc­tions on how to com­plete the pay­ment to their escrow agent. After they will have the con­fir­ma­tion of pay­ment from you, they will deliv­er the pack­age to your address and you will have to check the apart­ment to be sure that you like it .

So after you will see it if every­thing is as you expect­ed so you must con­tact them to release me the mon­ey and we’re done . If every­thing sounds good for you please send me your full name and address and your phone num­ber so we can start the pro­ce­dure asap. You will receive the keys in max­i­mum 3–4 work­ing days .

Go to http://www.trulia-imb.co.uk to see and check the agency.
Thank you!

MAIL 3: Mijn antwo­ord + info die ik opvroeg bij Tru­lia (de organ­isatie waar hij mee zou samen­werken)

Hel­lo,
I’m real­ly inter­est­ed in the apart­ment, but send­ing 800 euro to some­one i dont know, makes me cau­tious. I looked up tru­lia and asked them for some info. See mail from tru­lia below.

Look­ing for­ward for your reply.

Regards
Jama

________________________________________
Van: Tru­lia Help Cen­ter [helpcenter@trulia.com]

Hi,
Thank you for con­tact­ing Tru­lia. We are a real estate search engine and do not par­tic­i­pate in the trans­ac­tion between renter and land­lord. How­ev­er, sit­u­a­tions involv­ing wire trans­fers and land­lords that can­not meet you in per­son are red flags for scams and we encour­age users to be cau­tious.

Based on the email sent to you by the ‘land­lord’, it is very like­ly that this is a scam. It is rec­om­mend­ed that you do not send any mon­ey to this per­son. Please respond to this email with the list­ing address for the rental that you are inquir­ing about so that we can remove this list­ing from the site.

MAIL 4: De reac­tie van oplichter

I don’t know what to say.…
Tru­lia is 2–3 maybe 4 blocks away from my house.
They deal with this kind of stuff.
So I talked with them and they told me the steps

you send the deliv­ery address, copy of id, they send a con­tract (Euro­pean legit) you read, agree, yes or no. and send the first month plus secu­ri­ty. You get the keys in one or or maybe 3 days, I don’t know exact­ly , you vis­it, you decide, you email them back with your deci­sion, the mon­ey comes to me, a small fee to tru­lia, you are the new (own­er), the house is all yours until next month :) or if you want to pay in advance, that’s OK.
If you don’t want to take it, just email them and the will refund the mon­ey, i’ll still pay a small fee to them but… that’s life, oh, and you send the keys back to my address.

Dit Klopt duidelijk niet!

Ook ik heb juist het­zelfde meege­maakt en vond het van het begin al behoor­lijk louche. Het ging over een apparte­ment in het cen­trum van Gent. Ene Gert Mul­der zou dit ver­huren. Onder­tussen werd het zoek­ert­je al van immoweb gehaald.
Hieron­der de mails… Zeer vergelijk­baar met alle mails hier­boven.

MAIL 1:

Thank you for your interest.As you can see I have avail­able the apart­ment locat­ed in Keiz­er Karel­straat 65, 9000 Gent, with 2 bed­rooms, 1 liv­ing room, 1 kitchen and 1 bath­room because I moved with my job in Unit­ed King­dom, Lon­don and I need mon­ey to pay the rent here.I pur­chased this nice apart­ment dur­ing a busi­ness trip to Bel­gium with the inten­tion of ren­o­vat­ing it to a lux­u­ry state, then reselling it, but due to the mar­ket block­age and the inter­na­tion­al cri­sis, it is impos­si­ble for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decid­ed to rent it.I would be hap­py to rent it to some­body who likes keep­ing it clean and tidy.I can rent you the flat for 5 years, and, if after the five years you would like to stay more, then we can renew the contract.I can also rent it for short peri­ods (2 months minimum).The rent for 1 month is 550EUR includ­ing all util­i­ties (cold/hot water, elec­tric­i­ty, wire­less Inter­net, dig­i­tal TV, 1 park­ing spot, dish­wash­er, microwave, refrig­er­a­tor, wash­ing machine).You can use my fur­ni­ture, or you can use your own.You can move in the apt in the same day when you receive the keys. The only prob­lem is that I ‘m the only per­son who have the keys but I hope that we will find a com­pro­mise.
Thank you for your inter­est and I will look for­ward to hear­ing from you soon.
Good luck,

MAIL 2:

Hi,

Thank you for your reply but the mat­ter is that I’m in Lon­don already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for one month of rent will be 550EUR, with no extra tax­es to pay. The mon­ey, I want to revive it month­ly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no prob­lem for you to wire the mon­ey to my bank account. The apart­ment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the con­tract to check it, and see if you like it.
Obvi­ous­ly we need a way to com­plete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to com­plete the deal safe­ly and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 3 days, if you move fast as well. The solu­tion is pro­vid­ed by a com­pa­ny called TNT which is sim­i­lar to FedEx, DHL or UPS, which will han­dle both pay­ment and deliv­ery of the Keys.
I have found a pro­ce­dure that will allow you to pay for the rent of the apt only after you will receive the keys of it and through this way you will see it and decide if you will stay in the apt or not before I receive my payment.Please click on the link bel­low to the TNT web­site to see how we can com­plete the deal safe­ly and fast direct­ly from the web­site of the com­pa­ny where the pro­ce­dure is explained: http://www.tnt.com/express/en_gb/site/home/services/express_delivery.html
Let me know if you are inter­est­ed please because I real­ly need to take care of this mat­ter by the end of this week or the begin­ning of the next one.

Ik zet mijn zoek­tocht naar een niet-fraud­uleus apparte­ment alvast verder…

Beste Hilde en alle anderen,

Indi­en u twi­jfelt over de echtheid van een Immoweb zoek­ert­je raden we u aan om op de link “Meldt een ver­giss­ing” rechts naast het zoek­ert­je te klikken, dan wordt dit zoek­ert­je meteen gemeldt aan ons cus­tomer care team en gaan ze de echtheid na. Of u kan ook steeds een e‑mail sturen naar cva@immoweb.be; een bericht plaat­sen op onze Face­book pag­i­na (http://www.facebook.com/Immmoweb) of ons benaderen via één van onze twee Twit­ter accounts (http://www.twitter.com/Immoweb voor de Ned­er­land­stal­i­gen of http://www.twitter.com/Immoweb_fr voor de Franstal­i­gen).

Gelieve wel steeds het ref­er­en­tienum­mer van het zoek­ert­je erbij te ver­melden zodat we per direct de echtheid kun­nen nagaan en indi­en nodig het zoek­ert­je per direct kun­nen ver­wi­jderen zodat andere Immoweb gebruik­ers zich niet in de mal­ing lat­en nemen.

Begin deze maand rold­en we een aan­tal ver­be­terin­gen door waar­door gevallen van phish­ing of iden­titeits­dief­stal (een hack­er die het wacht­wo­ord kraakt), en dergelijke meer tot een strikt min­i­mum wordt her­lei­dt. Helaas is het qua­si onmo­gelijk om Immoweb 100% te vri­jwaren voor mensen met slechte bedoelin­gen, doch doen we dagelijks onze uiter­ste best om alles zo cor­rect mogelijk te lat­en ver­lopen zodat onze bezoek­ers niet de min­ste hin­der kun­nen ervaren.

Immoweb

Beste,

Ik heb 3 jaar gele­den reeds het­zelfde meege­maakt op immoweb, en nu opnieuw het­zelfde. Ik stu­urde de vol­gende 2 mails naar immoweb.

mail 1

Bij deze wens ik een ver­dacht zoek­ert­je te melden.
Ik ver­moed een fraude gezien ik dit in het verleden nog­maals heb meege­maakt op deze site.
Het gaat om zoek­ert­je 3854678.
Rede­nen waarom ik fraude ver­moed:
1) pri­js is abnor­maal laag;
2) ver­hu­ur­der geeft geen mail of gsm;
3) tekst is overgenomen van de vol­gende adver­ten­tie die een koop adver­ten­tie is:
http://immo.vlan.be/nl/Detail/Appartement/te-koop/2800/Mechelen/(RAB37480), met uit­zon­der­ing van een klein stuk tekst dat wegge­lat­en is, waar dan opnieuw opvalt dat de ver­voeg­ing naar meer­voud foutief is.
4) Op 1 van de foto’s in bijlage is het raamkoz­i­jn zwart alu­mini­um daar waar het betr­e­f­fende pand (terug te vin­den op googlemaps) enkel witte ramen heeft.
Graag een reac­tie van jul­lie op deze mail.

mail 2:

Geachte,

De fraude die ik 3 jaar gele­den meemaakte(die eve­neens in meche­len was) ging als vol­gt tew­erk:
Na con­tact met de zoge­naamde ver­hu­ur­der kreeg ik de meld­ing van de zoge­naamde ver­hu­ur­der dat hij in het buiten­land was.
Als ik toch het pand in kwest­ie wilde huren diende ik 2 maand waar­borg over te mak­en waar­na ik de sleu­tels zou kri­j­gen die ik zoge­naamd bij iemand in Meche­len zou kun­nen gaan ophalen. (uit­er­aard ben ik hier niet op inge­gaan)
Indi­en jul­lie je er ook van kun­nen vergewis­sen dat het opnieuw om dezelfde soort van fraude gaat denk ik dat het ter beveilig­ing van jul­lie site nut­tig zou zijn een meld­ing te mak­en op https://www.ecops.be/webforms/Default.aspx om zulks een prak­tijken die waarschi­jn­lijk door dezelfde per­soon wor­den uit­gevo­erd in de toekomst te ver­mi­j­den.

Na het lezen van deze site lijkt het prob­leem me inder­daad grot­er dan gedacht. Reken­ing houdende met het feit dat immoweb toch geld vraagt voor het plaat­sen van een zoek­ert­je lijkt het me toch een min­i­male dien­stver­len­ing dat ze de zoek­ert­jes ook zouden nalezen en op deze wijze zouden scree­nen. Dit lijkt mij DE manier te zijn voor hun om zich te onder­schei­den van de vele andere immoweb­sites!

Hi,

My name is Don­ald Attwood and I received an email of inter­est in my apart­ment locat­ed in Stoof­s­traat 2, 2000 Antwer­pen, with 2 bed­rooms, 1 bath­room, 1 kitchen and 1 liv­ing room. I pur­chased this nice apart­ment dur­ing a busi­ness trip to Bel­gium with the inten­tion of ren­o­vat­ing it to a lux­u­ry state, then reselling it, but due to the mar­ket block­age and the inter­na­tion­al cri­sis, it is impos­si­ble for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decid­ed to rent it. I am the only own­er of the apart­ment, it is paid in full and it has no legal prob­lems.

I wish to rent my apart­ment to some nice and respon­si­ble peo­ple and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many per­sons are you plan­ning to live in the apart­ment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. You should also know that I appre­ci­ate sin­cer­i­ty very much.

In addi­tion to every­thing else here is a lit­tle some­thing about the apart­ment and myself so we can get to know each oth­er.

The apart­ment is the one in the pic­tures from the adver­tis­ment. I have the option of send­ing all my fur­ni­ture into stor­age if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)

The rent for 1 month is 450 euro for the entire apart­ment includ­ing: elec­tric­i­ty, Inter­net, cable tv.….heating will be pay by you depend of con­sump­tion. You can rent the flat for any peri­od of time (open end con­tract) but not less than 5 months.

About myself, I am 37 years and as I told you I am a researcher in phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal prod­ucts, cur­rent­ly liv­ing in Lon­don, my home town .

You can move in the apart­ment in the same day when you receive the keys. The only issue is that I am already in Unit­ed King­dom but I hope that togeth­er we are going to find a solu­tion.

I appre­ci­ate your inter­est in my prop­er­ty and I am look­ing for­ward to a future col­lab­o­ra­tion and friend­ship.

Best regards,

Don­ald

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Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:52:58 +0200
From: info@immoweb.be
To: donald5attwood@hotmail.com
Sub­ject: Immoweb — Reac­tie op zoek­ert­je Te huur

De 1e vast­goed­site van Bel­gië, 134531 zoek­ert­jes in Bel­gië, 86695 zoek­ert­jes in het buiten­land, 1779390 foto’s.

Beste adver­teerder, een bezoek­er wenst meer info over Uw… Apparte­ment TE HUUR N°3857768

450 EUR
2000 Antwer­pen
Stoof­s­traat 2
Uw ref­er­en­tie : 0

Deze bezoek­er wil graag bijkomende info :

Opmerk­ing van de surfer :

Ik ben uw zoek­ert­je tegengekomen op Immoweb en het inter­esseert mij. Wan­neer zou ik dit kun­nen bezichti­gen?

Alvast bedankt voor uw reac­tie,

Met vrien­delijke groeten,

En kijk eens wat ik nou toe­val­lig bin­nen kreeg ;)

Hi,

My name is Don­ald Attwood and I received an email of inter­est in my apart­ment locat­ed in Stoof­s­traat 2, 2000 Antwer­pen, with 2 bed­rooms, 1 bath­room, 1 kitchen and 1 liv­ing room. I pur­chased this nice apart­ment dur­ing a busi­ness trip to Bel­gium with the inten­tion of ren­o­vat­ing it to a lux­u­ry state, then reselling it, but due to the mar­ket block­age and the inter­na­tion­al cri­sis, it is impos­si­ble for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decid­ed to rent it. I am the only own­er of the apart­ment, it is paid in full and it has no legal prob­lems.
I wish to rent my apart­ment to some nice and respon­si­ble peo­ple and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many per­sons are you plan­ning to live in the apart­ment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. You should also know that I appre­ci­ate sin­cer­i­ty very much.
In addi­tion to every­thing else here is a lit­tle some­thing about the apart­ment and myself so we can get to know each oth­er.
The apart­ment is the one in the pic­tures from the adver­tis­ment. I have the option of send­ing all my fur­ni­ture into stor­age if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)
The rent for 1 month is 450 euro for the entire apart­ment includ­ing: elec­tric­i­ty, Inter­net, cable tv.….heating will be pay by you depend of con­sump­tion. You can rent the flat for any peri­od of time (open end con­tract) but not less than 5 months.
About myself, I am 37 years and as I told you I am a researcher in phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal prod­ucts, cur­rent­ly liv­ing in Lon­don, my home town .
You can move in the apart­ment in the same day when you receive the keys. The only issue is that I am already in Unit­ed King­dom but I hope that togeth­er we are going to find a solu­tion.

I appre­ci­ate your inter­est in my prop­er­ty and I am look­ing for­ward to a future col­lab­o­ra­tion and friend­ship.

Best regards,

Don­ald

Waarop na mijn antwo­ord dit vol­gde:

Dear Lau­ra,

Thanks for your reply,

That sounds great !

You seem to be a very nice per­son and I can assure you we will not have any prob­lems. The thing is that I’m in Unit­ed King­dom already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for 1 month of rent will be 450 euro but in the first month you must to deposit 900 euro, 1 month of rent plus 450 euro for secu­ri­ty deposit pay­ment which is refund­able while pack­ing with­out any lost or dam­age of my prop­er­ties. The mon­ey, I want to receive it month­ly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no prob­lem for you to wire the mon­ey to my bank account. The apart­ment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the con­tract to check it, and see if you like it. Obvi­ous­ly we need a way to com­plete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to com­plete the deal safe­ly and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 2 days, if you move fast as well. The solu­tion is pro­vid­ed by a rental com­pa­ny called Tru­lia which is sim­i­lar to FedEx or UPS , Escrow … etc, which will han­dle both pay­ment and deliv­ery of the Keys. I have found a pro­ce­dure that will allow you receive the keys of it and through this way you will see it and decide if you will stay in the apt or not before I receive my pay­ment. To start this trans­ac­tion, I need your full name, address and tele­phone num­ber. I will also need to know the rental peri­od and the day you want to move in so I can put it in the con­tract. I will pay for the ser­vices of the agency, so there will be no extra costs for you. Also, in case you have anoth­er apart­ment right now, and you can­not move out imme­di­ate­ly, we can make the deal as I explained it now, and con­sid­er it only an inspec­tion and reser­va­tion.

PS: This is the pic­tures of the apart­ment:

http://postimage.org/image/8kgqmh4j9/
http://postimage.org/image/fejtocknf/
http://postimage.org/image/5ksdiwert/
http://postimage.org/image/dbm4km2j3/
http://postimage.org/image/iq7vp08nd/
http://postimage.org/image/y73g9vmj5/
http://postimage.org/image/6pmfoa18p/
http://postimage.org/image/f70vmod1d/

I am wait­ing for your quick response, because there are sev­er­al oth­ers inter­est­ed in the apart­ment, and I need to know if I can count on a deal with you.

Exact het­zelfde dus als voor­gaande meldin­gen!

Ik heb weer geant­wo­ord. Ook al weet ik dus dat dit er achter zit. Kijken of ik nu een gede­tailleerder antwo­ord kri­jg op mijn vra­gen..

Groet­jes, Lau­ra

Lez­ers,

Helaas ben ik er in getu­imeld en ben een hoop geld lichter.

Scam­mer van dienst; “Marie Meduno­va” Tsjechis­che in Liv­er­pool.

Onder­tussen verder gezocht naar een apparte­ment in Brus­sel en opnieuw een­t­je gevon­den. Deze keer Dhr. “Robert Ger­ard”, Brit uit Lon­den aan de andere kant; deze keer met de Door2Door scam.

Adressen : Kruid­tuin­laand 38 en Gen­er­aal Gartrys­traat 27 te Brus­sel.

Bei­den wor­den uit­geprint en woens­dag net­jes overge­dra­gen aan de poli­tie.

Mocht iemand een betaal­baar (800euro) tweeslaap­kam­er­ap­parte­ment in Brus­sel weten, stu­ur zek­er een bericht­je!

Vrien­delijke groet,

Matthias Van Steen
gedupeerde

No zo’n lokkert­je zojuist ont­van­gen. Vond het te mooi om waar te zijn, dus maar even gaan googlen. Thanks voor de info mensen.

Hel­lo,

Thanks for your inter­est, i bought this apart­ment for my son dur­ing he’s stud­ies , but now he’s back home in Lon­don UK per­ma­nent­ly, so i’m rent­ing the place for unlim­it­ed time. Before we go any fur­ther i would like to know some­thing about you, like how many per­sons you intend to live in the apart­ment, what is your job , how old are you and for how long you will stay . The flat is exact­ly like in the pic­tures, ful­ly fur­nished equipped and ren­o­vat­ed. Also, very impor­tant, the util­i­ties water hot/cold, elec­tric­i­ty, heat­ing, gas, Inter­net, cable, park­ing space, dish­wash­er, garbage dis­pos­al, are includ­ed in the price of 350 eur per month and i believe it is con­ve­nient for both of us. All the bills will be paid by me and you have to pay only the mon­ey for the rent in every month. The secu­ri­ty deposit is also 350 eur , and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apart­ment ( you will have to give me at least 1 month notice ). You can use my fur­ni­ture, or you can also use your own if you pre­fer. I’m a Neu­ro-Oncol­o­gy doc­tor from Lon­don — Unit­ed King­dom . I can make arrange­ments to rent the apart­ment from here fast and easy . I look for­ward to hear from you soon. Thanks

zelfde mail ont­van­gen.…
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Hi,

My name is Gor­don Wen­dell and I received an email of inter­est in my apart­ment locat­ed in Wilderoosstraat 96, 9000 Gent, with 2 bed­rooms, 1 bath­room, 1 kitchen and 1 liv­ing room. I pur­chased this nice apart­ment dur­ing a busi­ness trip to Bel­gium with the inten­tion of ren­o­vat­ing it to a lux­u­ry state, then reselling it, but due to the mar­ket block­age and the inter­na­tion­al cri­sis, it is impos­si­ble for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decid­ed to rent it. I am the only own­er of the apart­ment, it is paid in full and it has no legal prob­lems.
I wish to rent my apart­ment to some nice and respon­si­ble peo­ple and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many per­sons are you plan­ning to live in the apart­ment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. You should also know that I appre­ci­ate sin­cer­i­ty very much.
In addi­tion to every­thing else here is a lit­tle some­thing about the apart­ment and myself so we can get to know each oth­er.
The apart­ment is the one in the pic­tures from the adver­tis­ment. I have the option of send­ing all my fur­ni­ture into stor­age if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)
The rent for 1 month is 425 euro for the entire apart­ment includ­ing: fur­ni­ture, Inter­net, cable tv, etc. You can rent the flat for any peri­od of time (open end con­tract) but not less than 5 months.
About myself, I am 37 years and I am a researcher in phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal prod­ucts, cur­rent­ly liv­ing in Lon­don, my home town .
You can move in the apart­ment in the same day when you receive the keys. The only issue is that I am already in Unit­ed King­dom but I hope that togeth­er we are going to find a solu­tion.

I appre­ci­ate your inter­est in my prop­er­ty and I am look­ing for­ward to a future col­lab­o­ra­tion and friend­ship.

Best regards,

Gor­don

2 Mail

Hi Frank,

Thanks for your reply,

The thing is that I’m in Unit­ed King­dom already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for 1 month of rent will be 425 euro but in the first month you must to deposit 850 euro, 1 month of rent plus 425 euro for secu­ri­ty deposit pay­ment which is refund­able while pack­ing with­out any lost or dam­age of my prop­er­ties. The mon­ey, I want to receive it month­ly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no prob­lem for you to wire the mon­ey to my bank account. The apart­ment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the con­tract to check it, and see if you like it. Obvi­ous­ly we need a way to com­plete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to com­plete the deal safe­ly and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 3 days, if you move fast as well. The solu­tion is pro­vid­ed by a rental com­pa­ny called Tru­lia Real Estate which is sim­i­lar to FedEx, UPS, Escrow … etc, which will han­dle both pay­ment and deliv­ery of the Keys.
I will explain the pro­ce­dure if you are inter­est­ed so please email me as soon as you read this mes­sage because I real­ly need to take care of this mat­ter.

The apart­ment is like in the pic­tures

http://postimage.org/image/uf9mbd4gv/
http://postimage.org/image/mxvv5x76d/
http://postimage.org/image/91l41vu9f/
http://postimage.org/image/u2rewo0yn/
http://postimage.org/image/pvzyifwh9/
http://postimage.org/image/gfp4aqd4x/
http://postimage.org/image/pj3if159v/

Best Regards,

Hel­lo, I saw your com­plaints and com­ments but too late! I got trapped in this fraud, unfor­tu­nate­ly… I already filed my com­plaint to the police, I sent e‑mail to the bank secu­ri­ty to inform them for the fraud and to the Immoweb site. But until today there is no reply from them… Now I see that this per­son is again doing frauds in the Immoweb, so I con­tact­ed him again to get him on the hook and try to stop this.

Ze zijn nu actief op Speur­ders.
Apparte­menten op toplo­caties in Ams­ter­dam.

Deze week ben ik er al met 4 in con­tact gekomen.
Alle­maal met bij­na het­zelfde ver­haal, terug naar Madrid, Enge­land, enz.

Alice Hope, Anto­nia Estevez, Marisol Her­nan­dez, Adam Harp­er, ect, ect.

Huur en borg moeten overge­maakt wor­den via een koerier, zoals UPS of Re-Max, en dan kri­jg je de sleu­tels om het apparte­ment te kun­nen bek­ijken. Dat kri­jg je zoge­naam terug van het koeriers­bedri­jf als je het apparte­ment niet zou willen.

Deze mensen bestaan niet en/of sturen nep-sleu­tels op en ver­vol­gens ben jij al je geld kwi­jt!

Een voor­lop­ig huur­con­tract, eigen­doms­be­wi­jzen of per­soon­lijke gegevens wilden ze niet sturen voor­dat wij zouden betal­en.

Deze mail kreeg ik nog eens, ik denk ook weer zelfde ver­haal dus oppassen geblazen! :

Hel­lo,
Sor­ry for my late reply and I’m sor­ry to write you in Eng­lish but i don’t speak Dutch and also not French.
I just read your e‑mail regard­ing my apart­ment: Korte Sint-Annas­traat 8, 2000 Antwer­pen.
The apart­ment is ren­o­vat­ed last year and have 1 liv­ing room, 1 bed­room, kitchen and bed­room. The total sur­face of the apart­ment is 50 m². Wash­ing machine, dish­wash­er is avail­able and also you can make changes in the apart­ment if you want like paint the walls. Water, elec­tric­i­ty are includ­ed in the rent. Heat­ing will be pay by you accord­ing of con­sump­tion.
The price is 450 Eur Month­ly and 450 Eur secu­ri­ty deposit refund­able at the end of the con­tract!
Now, a lit­tle bit about myself: My name is Bland­i­na Bar­rera Pine­da and I’m a 50 years old work as researcher in med­ical field for Span­ish gov­ern­ment.
I bought this apart­ment for my daugh­ter dur­ing her stud­ies and prac­tice in Antwer­pen, but now she is back home in Spain per­ma­nent­ly, so I am rent­ing the place for any peri­od time.
I’m a pet own­er myself, so I will have no prob­lem if you want to keep a pet in the house, as long as noth­ing is dam­aged.
Unfor­tu­nate­ly, my job and don’t allow me to do any trav­el­ing for the next few months, so I will not be able to come and meet you per­son­al­ly for a while.
Since my daugh­ter left Antwer­pen, nobody is there to take care about rent­ing it so I will pay a third par­ty com­pa­ny to take care of deliv­ery and pay­ment.
All the pay­ments will be send by bank trans­fer so you can have a record of your pay­ments and also the bank trans­fer are easy trace­able and safe.
I would like to know how many per­sons you intend to share the flat with, and for how long. Any oth­er details about your­self would be appre­ci­at­ed.
So I guess this is it for now, I hope I didn’t for­get any­thing.
Thank you for your inter­est and Friend­ly greet­ings!
Dr. Bland­i­na Bar­rera Pine­da
Calle padre xifre 3
Bar­rio pros­peri­dad
Dis­tri­to chamartín
Madrid
28002
Spain

Dit zoek­ert­je sprong ook direct int oog.…alleen dacht ik ni aan oplichters maar da ze een nulleke te weinig had­den ingetikt en daarmee tussen de “goeiekopere” apparte­menten waren terechtgekomen.…..maar om de één of andere reden heb ik rond ongeveer 21u toch gereageerd.…..en een uurt­je lat­er al kreeg ik antwo­ord. Hij noemt zichzelf van­daag Greg Roben, greg2@mail.com en het staat op Zimmo.be.….

Hel­lo,
First of all I’m sor­ry for the late reply but I had a lot to work and this is the time I could give you a mes­sage. From the site add, you could see, that the apart­ment locat­ed in: Meis­traat 25, 2000 Antwer­pen .I am look­ing for some­one to live in it, as soon as pos­si­ble, because my com­pa­ny has won the auc­tion for a project, in con­struc­tion, for a build­ing that will rise up in Eng­land. I am a civ­il engi­neer, so my accom­mo­da­tion peri­od in Eng­land will be about 4 years. The rent­ing peri­od is from 2 months upto 4 years. As a result of this I want to rent, for this peri­od, at this price and also to find the per­fect per­son for my apart­ment. I‘m the own­er of the apt and it’s like in the pics.
The apart­ment is fur­nished, but I have the option of send­ing all my fur­ni­ture into stor­age if you want to bring your own (no extra costs). The rent for 1 month is € 450, but you must to deposit ( € 900/2months ) (for the whole apart­ment) includ­ing all util­i­ties (water, elec­tric­i­ty, Inter­net, cable, park­ing, air con­di­tion­ing, fire­place, dish­wash­er, garbage dis­pos­al, microwave, refrig­er­a­tor). You can move in the apt in the same day when you receive the keys. The only prob­lem is that I‘m the only per­son who has the keys but I hope that we will find a solu­tion.
Thank you for your inter­est and I will look for­ward to hear­ing from you soon.
Please tell me if this is what are you look­ing for and reply my only if you are tru­ly inter­est­ed in the apart­ment

Ik heb het meege­speeld om te zien hoe of wa da er nu dan zou gebeuren.… dit was mijn antwo­ord.…

Goe­de­navond Greg,

Ik ben zek­er en vast geintereseerd.…De waar­borg is geen prob­leem en ik heb ook vast werk…Wanneer past het voor u om eens afte­spreken dan?
Hoop dat ik vlug iets hoor van u!!

Ben eens benieuwd.….hoop da ze ze toch op de één of ander manier te pakken kun­nen krijgen.…Dit is zeer laag en gemeen …Moest ik da voorhebben, ik zou opt straat kun­nen gaan slapen dan.…zou gedaan zijn met zoeken dan.…

Hoop dak wa heb geholpen.….
Bye­bye

A

Hal­lo, ik heb deze op immovlan gevon­den en heb vol­gende email gekre­gen:

Hel­lo ,

Thanks for your inter­est in want­i­ng to be my ten­ant. I am look­ing for a respon­si­ble & clean ten­ant that will be able to take good care of my apart­ment because I work as archi­tect (Build­ing Design­er) and I do trav­el a lot. Present­ly I am in Unit­ed King­dom for a project and I don’t know when I will return back to Bel­gium that’s why am look­ing for a Ten­ant who will live in the apart­ment and take care of it as i don’t want to sell it. The apart­ment is avail­able for long term and short term lease is also accept­ed.
The apart­ment is locat­ed at Graaf van Egmontstraat 25,2000 Antwer­pen.
It is fur­nished but if you need it unfur­nished, i can order for the fur­ni­ture be moved to stor­age. The rent is inclu­sive of the below list­ed util­i­ties:
• High Speed Inter­net
• In-Suite Laun­dry
• Large in-suite stor­age
• Cable
Its a spa­cious and love­ly 1‑bedroom 1‑bathroom fur­nished apart­ment, Util­i­ties are includ­ed and Pets are allowed. Kitchen com­plete­ly equipped, Ket­tle – Toast­er – Dish­wash­er – Freez­er – Microwave – Oven – Dry­er – Heat – Water – Wash­ing Machine and Elec­tric.
I want you to note that I am a kind and hon­est man and also I spent a lot on my prop­er­ty that I want to give you for rent, so I will solic­it for your absolute main­te­nance of the apart­ment and I would want you to treat it as your own, I would like you to keep it tidy all the time I also want you to let me have trust in you as I always stand on my word, the rental fees is € 400 per month, i require first and last month rent. As i am in Unit­ed King­dom with my work, we will use a real estate agency who will han­dles the deliv­ery of the pack­age to your address in Bel­gium and the oth­er aspects of the trans­ac­tion.
Find attached, some of the inte­ri­or pic­tures of the apart­ment for you to know what the inside looks like.
http://s13.postimage.org/pkgzqtywn/chpk2178522_1.jpg
http://s13.postimage.org/iwke48fef/chpk2178522_2.jpg
http://s13.postimage.org/90jb4l9mf/chpk2178522_3.jpg
http://s13.postimage.org/hy411y22f/chpk2178522_4.jpg
http://s13.postimage.org/akon2zi0n/chpk2178522_6.jpg
http://s13.postimage.org/4l0vzbx87/chpk2178522_7.
I will wait your reply as soon as pos­si­ble.
Best Regards,
Patrik Klaus

Wize weet er meer over Roben Greg? Hij is archi­tect en werkt in the UK. Zijn adres blijkt een hotel in Lon­don te zijn. Ze ken­nen hem niet. Had met het hotel gebeld en naar hem gemaild dat zijn tele­foon­nr niet bereik­baar is en gevraagd of hij me wilde bellen. 5 minuten lat­er kri­jg ik tele­foon van een kan­toor zogezegd in Lon­don. Deze per­soon vertelt me dat we enkel per email verder onder­han­de­len. Heb alle gegevens en het kan­toor in Bel­gië kent nog deze per­soon en doet niet aan ver­hu­ur.

Net het­zelfde met FRANK DOUVEN in GENT Gevon­den op IMMOWEB. Ver­schrikke­lijk degoutant. Hoop dat ze hier ooit iets aan doen …

Hi,

My name is Frank Dou­ven and I received an email of inter­est in my apart­ment locat­ed in Coupure 940, 9000 Gent, with 2 bed­rooms, 1 bath­room, 1 kitchen and 1 liv­ing room. I pur­chased this nice apart­ment dur­ing a busi­ness trip to Bel­gium with the inten­tion of ren­o­vat­ing it to a lux­u­ry state, then reselling it, but due to the mar­ket block­age and the inter­na­tion­al cri­sis, it is impos­si­ble for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decid­ed to rent it. I am the only own­er of the apart­ment, it is paid in full and it has no legal prob­lems.
I wish to rent my apart­ment to some nice and respon­si­ble peo­ple and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many per­sons are you plan­ning to live in the apart­ment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. You should also know that I appre­ci­ate sin­cer­i­ty very much.

In addi­tion to every­thing else here is a lit­tle some­thing about the apart­ment and myself so we can get to know each oth­er.

The apart­ment is the one in the pic­tures from the adver­tis­ment. I have the option of send­ing all my fur­ni­ture into stor­age if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)
The rent for 1 month is 500 euro for the entire apart­ment includ­ing: (cold/hot water, elec­tric­i­ty, wire­less Inter­net, dig­i­tal TV, dish­wash­er, microwave, refrig­er­a­tor, wash­ing machine). You can rent the flat for any peri­od of time (open end con­tract) but not less than 5 months.

About myself, I am 39 years and as I told you I am a researcher in phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal prod­ucts, cur­rent­ly liv­ing in Lon­don, my home town.

You can move in the apart­ment in the same day when you receive the keys. The only issue is that I am already in Unit­ed King­dom but I hope that togeth­er we are going to find a solu­tion.

I appre­ci­ate your inter­est in my prop­er­ty and I am look­ing for­ward to a future col­lab­o­ra­tion and friend­ship.

Best regards,

Beste blog­be­zoek­ers,

Bedankt voor de reeds vele meldin­gen onder dit blog­a­r­tikel, dit maakt het ons makke­lijk­er fraud­uleuze zoek­ert­jes op te sporen en te ver­wi­jderen. We doen er alles aan om fraud­uleuze zoek­ert­jes zoveel mogelijk van onze web­site te weren en rold­en medio vorig jaar een resem ver­be­terin­gen door. Al zullen er steeds oplichters bli­jven die door de mazen van het net glip­pen, hoe hard we ook ons best doen. Som­mige bedriegers gaan zelfs zo ver dat ze zich voor­doen als werkne­mer van Immoweb!!

We herin­neren onze web­site bezoek­ers graag aan enkele essen­tiële regels om een trans­ac­tie veilig te lat­en ver­lopen:

1. Wees voorzichtig met pan­den waar­van de pri­js te mooi is om waar te zijn.
2. In geval van twi­jfel, ga geen verbin­tenis­sen aan zon­der het vast­goed op voor­hand bezocht te hebben.
3. Wees extra voorzichtig indi­en het tele­foon­num­mer of e‑mailadres van de eige­naar u vreemd lijkt (ver­keerd tele­foon­num­mer, nie­mand antwo­ordt, geen tele­foon­num­mer, …)

4. Stort of ver­stu­ur nooit geld als voorschot op de huur of om de sleu­tels te verkri­j­gen, zon­der eerst de eige­naar of zijn vast­goed­make­laar te hebben ont­moet.
5. Wees op uw hoede, in het bij­zon­der wan­neer gevraagd wordt om betalin­gen uit te voeren via West­ern Union of naar een buiten­landse bank, aangezien deze vaak anon­iem zijn, waar­door het onmo­gelijk is om de begun­stig­den terug te vin­den.

6. Immoweb treedt NOOIT of NOOIT op als tussen­per­soon bij trans­ac­ties tussen de kan­di­daat-kop­er of kan­di­daat-huur­der en de plaatser van het zoek­ert­je (immo­bil­iënkan­toor, notaris, eige­naar). Elk bericht dat het tegen­deel beweert, is dus foutief.

Als u een fraud­uleus zoek­ert­je op het spoor bent gekomen, kan u dit steeds melden door op de link “Meldt een ver­giss­ing” te klikken, rechts naast de foto van het pand zoals in onder­staand voor­beeld:http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7712/captureyue.jpg

Dagdagelijks analy­seert onze tech­nis­che dienst ger­ap­por­teerde “ver­gissin­gen” om eventuele fouten (bijvoor­beeld een ver­keerd opgegeven gemeente) in een geplaatst zoek­ert­je te wijzi­gen en/of fraud­uleuze zoek­ert­jes zo snel mogelijk in de kiem te kun­nen smoren. Gelieve alleszins geen enkel gevolg te geven aan dubieuze voorstellen!

Voor verdere infor­matie kan u steeds http://www.immoweb.be/nlraadplegen of con­tact opne­men met de Immoweb Cus­tomer Care op 02/333.25.06 of per email naar zoekertje@immoweb.be.

Voor verdere infor­matie kan u steeds http://www.immoweb.be/nlraadplegen of con­tact opne­men met de Immoweb Cus­tomer Care op 02/333.25.06 of per email naar zoekertje@immoweb.be.

Wij danken U voor uw vertrouwen in Immoweb.

Hoogach­t­end,

Immoweb

Hal­lo

Hier nog iemand om voor op te passen!
car­ol skel­ton (carol6skelton@hotmail.com)
het zelfde ver­haal als bij de anderen.deze keer in gent coupure 940

Dit is het zoek­ert­je
http://www.immoweb.be/nl/Rent.estate.cfm?idbien=X_4151259

en dit is de mail die we kre­gen

Hi,

Thank you for your inter­est. As you can see I have avail­able the apart­ment locat­ed in Coupure 940, 9000 Gent, with 2 bed­rooms, 1 liv­ing room, 1 kitchen and 1 bath­room. I pur­chased this nice apart­ment dur­ing a busi­ness trip to Bel­gium with the inten­tion of ren­o­vat­ing it to a lux­u­ry state, then reselling it, but due to the mar­ket block­age and the inter­na­tion­al cri­sis, it is impos­si­ble for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decid­ed to rent it. I am the only own­er of the apart­ment, it is paid in full and it has no legal prob­lems.
I wish to rent my apart­ment to some nice and respon­si­ble peo­ple and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many per­sons are you plan­ning to live in the apart­ment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. You should also know that I appre­ci­ate sin­cer­i­ty very much.
In addi­tion to every­thing else here is a lit­tle some­thing about the apart­ment and myself so we can get to know each oth­er.
The apart­ment is the one in the pic­tures from the adver­tis­ment. I have the option of send­ing all my fur­ni­ture into stor­age if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)
The rent for 1 month is 450 euro for the entire apart­ment includ­ing: (cold/hot water, elec­tric­i­ty, wire­less Inter­net, dig­i­tal TV, dish­wash­er, microwave, refrig­er­a­tor, wash­ing machine). You can rent the flat for any peri­od of time (open end con­tract) but not less than 5 months.
About myself, I am 35 years and I am a researcher in phar­ma­ceu­ti­cal prod­ucts, cur­rent­ly liv­ing in Lon­don, my home town .
You can move in the apart­ment in the same day when you receive the keys. The only issue is that I am already in Unit­ed King­dom but I hope that togeth­er we are going to find a solu­tion.

I appre­ci­ate your inter­est in my prop­er­ty and I am look­ing for­ward to a future col­lab­o­ra­tion and friend­ship.

Best regards,

Hopelijk heeft die geen andere mensen in de zak gezet.
En dankz­ij deze site ben ik er ook aan ontsnapt. Danku!

Dit is de mail die we zogezegt kre­gen van TNT

” Wel­come to TNT Glob­al Air Express

Our com­pa­ny is the WORLD mar­ket leader in Glob­al Air Express and inter­na­tion­al mail ser­vices.

Third Par­ty Ser­vice reduces risks asso­ci­at­ed with Inter­net trans­ac­tions by act­ing as a licensed neu­tral third par­ty for online trans­ac­tions. The Own­er deliv­ers the pack­age to one of near­est TNT Glob­al Air Express agents for the eval­u­a­tion of con­tents. The pack­age will remain in the com­pa­ny cus­tody until the receiv­er will send the pay­ment by Pri­or­i­ty Ser­vice Bank Trans­fer . After ver­i­fy­ing the funds, TNT Glob­al Air Express is ready to ship the par­cel to the des­ig­nat­ed address.

NOTE: We order to avoid the ear­li­er pick up of the funds by the ship­per based on fact that he is aware of the sent pay­ment — we are thank­ing you for choos­ing our third par­ty ser­vice for your trans­ac­tions — which will be revealed to the ship­per along with all the trans­ac­tion details after the deliv­ery and your clear­ance. Con­sid­er this secu­ri­ty mea­sure if you have not dealt with the Own­er before and you believe that this is in your best inter­est.

Own­er Infor­ma­tion
Full Name Car­ol Skel­ton
Address 44 Edg­ware Road
Lon­don, W2 1ED
Coun­try Unit­ed King­dom
Sta­tus Approved
Ten­ant Infor­ma­tion
Full Name XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Address XXXXXXXXXXXX
9000 Gent
Coun­try Bel­gium
Sta­tus Approved
Ship­ment Infor­ma­tion:

Ser­vice: TNT Glob­al Air Express
Deliv­ered In: 3 Days
Descrip­tion of goods: Apart­ment Keys and Rental Con­tract ver­i­fied signed by the Sender. All the papers are dou­ble checked.
Ship­ping & Han­dling: EURO 0,00
Imme­di­ate pay­ment: EURO 900.00

NOTE: You will receive the Track­ing Num­ber after the pay­ment is con­firmed to us.

Pay­ment Infor­ma­tion:
The TNT Ten­ant Pro­tec­tion ser­vice guar­an­tees to its cus­tomers full safe­ty for their trans­ac­tions by col­lect­ing, hold­ing and dis­put­ing funds accord­ing to Ten­ant and Own­er instruc­tions. To enjoy the pur­chase pro­tec­tion, you must sub­mit pay­ment by Urgent Trans­fer (Pri­or­i­ty Ser­vice Bank Trans­fer) to the fol­low­ing TNT Rep­re­sen­ta­tive bank account. You will pay some addi­tion­al fees but in this way we will be able to receive the funds in 24 Hours and we will start the ship­ping imme­di­ate­ly.

How to send the pay­ment:

Send the pay­ment by Bank Trans­fer (Pri­or­i­ty Ser­vice) using the fol­low­ing TNT Rep­re­sen­ta­tive account Details :

TNT Rep­re­sen­ta­tive Account Name : TNT Express
Ben­e­fi­cia­ry Bank Name : Bar­clays Bank
Ben­e­fi­cia­ry Bank IBAN : GB83 BARC 2047 3483 5617 39
Ben­e­fi­cia­ry Bank Account Num­ber : 83561739 Sort Code: 20–47-34
Ben­e­fi­cia­ry Bank Swift Code : BARCGB22
Ben­e­fi­cia­ry Bank Address : 1221 Green­ford Road
Ben­e­fi­cia­ry Bank City : Greenford,Middx
Ben­e­fi­cia­ry Bank Zip Code : UB6 0HY
Ben­e­fi­cia­ry Bank Coun­try : Unit­ed King­dom

How to com­plete and con­firm pay­ment :

1.The pay­ment must be sent by bank trans­fer to the bank account of our TNT Rep­re­sen­ta­tive.
2. After pay­ment is com­plete send us the receipt from your bank by e‑mail ( contact@tnt-express-tnt.com ).
3. E‑mail us the ser­i­al num­bers of the pay­ment receipt doc­u­ment.

*** Once the bank trans­fer clears and our TNT Rep­re­sen­ta­tive con­firms pay­ment, we will start the ship­ping process. We will hold the funds until you send us your con­fir­ma­tion that you are sat­is­fied with the Apart­ment . As soon as we receive your con­fir­ma­tion we will release pay­ment to the Own­er.”

Wel met mooie opmaak en logo’s enzo.

Hey iedereen,

Onlangs heeft mijn vriend ook een — onre­al­is­tisch — zoek­ert­je gevon­den op de web­site van Immoweb voor een apparte­ment te Leu­ven. Hij dacht wel dat er een addert­je onder het gras moest schuilen, maar heeft toch maar een mailt­je ges­tu­urd uit nieuws­gierigheid. Meteen kreeg hij een mail terug in het Engels van een zoge­naamde Olivi­er Brunet; het bevat een typ­isch ver­haal zoals ik hier­boven vaak heb gelezen. Ik copy-paste het even:

“Hi,

Thank you for your inter­est. As you can see I have avail­able the apart­ment locat­ed in: Jan-Pieter Minck­el­ersstraat 38, 3000 Leu­ven — Bel­gium, with 2 bed­rooms, 1 liv­ing room, 1 kitchen and 2 bath­rooms. I pur­chased this nice apart­ment 4 years ago when i moved to Bel­gium with my work (i am a con­struc­tion engi­neer), but my com­pa­ny fin­ished his projects in Bel­gium and now i am back in my coun­try, Unit­ed King­dom and i live in Bris­tol. I ren­o­vat­ed and bought new fur­ni­ture, all appli­ance are new and i was think­ing to reselling it, but due to the mar­ket block­age and the inter­na­tion­al cri­sis, it is impos­si­ble for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decid­ed to rent it. Before we go any fur­ther I would like to know a lit­tle some­thing about you, like how many per­sons you intend to live in the apart­ment, and for how long. I would be hap­py to rent it to some­body who likes keep­ing it clean and tidy. I can rent you the flat for 5 years, and, if after the 5 years you would like to stay more, then we can renew the con­tract. I can also rent it for short peri­ods (1–2 months min­i­mum). The rent for 1 month is 390 EUR includ­ing all util­i­ties (cold/hot water, elec­tric­i­ty, wire­less Inter­net, dig­i­tal TV, 1 park­ing spot ‚air con­di­tion­ing, dish­wash­er, microwave, refrig­er­a­tor, wash­ing machine). You can use my fur­ni­ture, or you can use your own. I have the option of send­ing all my fur­ni­ture into stor­age if you want to bring your own (no extra costs). You can move in the apt in the same day when you receive the keys. The only prob­lem is that I ‘m the only per­son who have the keys but I hope that we will find a com­pro­mise. Thank you for your inter­est and I will look for­ward to hear­ing from you soon.

Thank you,”

Je ziet meteen de vaak terugk­erende ele­menten na het lezen van de meeste reac­ties op deze web­site.

Nu vind ik het toch wel zeer opmerke­lijk dat er meer dan twee jaar gepasseerd is, immers de eerste reac­ties van slachtof­fers hier dateren van 2011, en Immoweb nog steeds geen buffer heeft kun­nen bieden tegen deze oplichters? Voor “De 1e vast­goed­site van Bel­gië” is dit toch echt wel niet kun­nen?
Ik zie hier af en toe een reac­tie ver­schi­j­nen van een of ander medew­erk­er van Immoweb, waarin hij meldt dat de tech­nis­che dienst dagelijks op zoek gaat naar fraud­uleuze zoek­ert­jes etc. Maar is dit nu werke­lijk een per­ma­nente oploss­ing? Blijk­baar niet, aangezien het prob­leem zich steeds bli­jft voor­doen.

De manier waarop Immoweb hier­mee omspringt vind ik dan per­soon­lijk zeer onpro­fes­sioneel en het getu­igt voor mij een groot gebrek aan respect voor de bezoek­ers van de web­site.

Nu vraag ik me af of je het prob­leem niet voor een groot deel zou kun­nen voorkomen door sim­pel­weg enkele voor­lichtin­gen op de voor­pag­i­na van Immoweb te plaat­sen, dan eerder de schade te proberen “genezen” met nadi­en op zoek te gaan naar zoek­ert­jes die mogelijk fraud­uleus zijn?

Ik lees hier een opsom­ming van enkele essen­tiële regels om een trans­ac­tie veilig te lat­en ver­lopen, maar waarom kan men deze niet op de eigen web­site terugvin­den?
Is het niet veel effec­tiev­er om een dergelijke voor­zorgs­maa­tregel op te stellen op de voor­pag­i­na, waarin je een groot pub­liek bereikt & behoed van “het kwade? Naar mijn mening is dit toch een voor de hand liggende uitweg?

Hoe dan ook, ik hoop dat er snel wat doel­matige acties wor­den onder­nomen en dat het prob­leem hier­mee gro­ten­deels kan wor­den ver­holpen.

Groet­jes,

D.

Het­zelfde ver­haal hier in Gent, met Kevin Nichi­for voor een apparte­ment te Kon­ingstraat 3 voor 450 all-in.

Het­zelfde hier !: 2de mail

Hi there,

I have giv­en a great deal of thought about this and I think that send­ing the keys is not such a good idea. I want to use a third par­ty to han­dle this for us and I hope it’s ok for you, too.
I want to use the Roy­al Mail Com­pa­ny. They are a well known com­pa­ny all over the world. So, I went to their office in Edin­burgh and I told them that I want to rent my apart­ment and they told me that they have a new ser­vice i can use.
I’ve already paid the fees (GBP 200).

So, here is how it goes:
I start over the process with Roy­al Mail here in Edin­burgh and I leave the keys and a copy of the con­tract at Roy­al Mail.Then they’ll e‑mail you all the infor­ma­tion you need to con­tin­ue the trans­ac­tion at your end. As per the Roy­al Mail‘s instruc­tions you send the funds to Roy­al Mail and then Roy­al Mail will FedEx-overnight the keys and the con­tract to you. Then you look around the apart­ment and decide whether take it or not. If you decide not to rent the apart­ment Roy­al Mail will refund you with­in 24 hours and you return the keys to me. It’s clear and sim­ple. This is the only way to do it giv­en the cir­cum­stances and that is an over­seas rental process. All I want is to both be safe.

The deposit you have to send it’s EUR 1,200 and it’s for the first 2 months and for the secu­ri­ty deposit. This is the Roy­al Mail Ser­vice I am talk­ing about, read the Phase 1 and Phase 2 to bet­ter under­stand the process: http://24h-royalmaildelivery.info/royalmail.com/portal/rm/webship.high.html

Should i begin the process with Roy­al Mail? Please e‑mail me and let me know and tomor­row you could have the keys in hand if you com­plete your end in a time­ly fash­ion.

Thank you,
Robin

Er staat een zogezegd apparte­ment op Immoweb, 500 euro, Willekens­molen­straat na te hebben gemaild. Van ene Robert Schweiz­er, 44 Edgroad Lon­don. Jam­mer, want het leek een droomkans. Echt een droomkans dus.

Beste. Jam­merge­noeg bli­jven deze oplichters bezig op immoweb. Deze keer een Apparte­ment in Brus­sel — email­com­mu­ni­catie van viviennemercier@outlook.com wonende te UK

Vivi­enne Mervi­er
68 High Street
Pon­ders End Enfield,
Greater Lon­don
EN3 4ER
Unit­ed King­dom

Oppassen dus…

Ik heb alle­maal exact dezelfde mails gekre­gen van deze ms. Merci­er. Het grap­pige is dat ze in haar voet­noot haar achter­naam al fout schri­jft, namelijk als Mervi­er. Ik ben zo blij dat ik deze site heb gevon­den want mijn vriend en ik waren en zo goed als zek­er van over­tu­igd!

Op 5‑nov.-2013 om 23:12 heeft Vivi­enne Merci­er het vol­gende geschreven:

Hel­lo ,
Thanks for your reply, but the prob­lem is that I am already in Unit­ed King­dom. As I informed you, the price you will have to pay the first month rent of 400 + 400 EUR deposit (800 EUR), with no addi­tion­al fees . I need from you one month rent plus deposit. I want to receive the mon­ey month­ly in my bank account. I trust that there is no prob­lem for you to send mon­ey to my bank account . The apart­ment is ready , you just need to receive the keys and the con­tract to check it, and see if you can accept it. Of course we will need some way to go through this agree­ment, to allow us ensure that we get what we are expect­ing. For in it, I have dis­cov­ered how we could fin­ish the deal secure­ly and quick­ly, and in this way, you will receive the keys in less than 2 days, if you move quick­ly as well. A rental third par­ty ser­vice called One­Home­Lim­it­ed , offers this solu­tion and will han­dle both pay­ment and deliv­ery of the keys.In this way, you may see it and decide if you want to live in the apart­ment or not, before I receive any pay­ment. To start this trans­ac­tion, I need your full name, address, city, post­code and coun­try . I will also have to know the rental peri­od and the day you want to move in, so I can put it in the con­tract. I will pay for the ser­vices per­formed by the agency, so there will not be any addi­tion­al cost to you. In addi­tion, if you have anoth­er apart­ment right now, and you can­not move out imme­di­ate­ly, we can come to an agree­ment as I have explained here, and con­sid­er it only an inspec­tion and reservation.I will wait your quick response, because there are oth­er peo­ple wait­ing for my answer too, so i need to know if I can count on a deal with you . Thank You

Ms Vivi­enne Mervi­er
68 High Street
Pon­ders End Enfield,
Greater Lon­don
EN3 4ER
Unit­ed King­dom

Nog een oplichter http://www.immoweb.be/nl/Rent.Estate.cfm?IdBien=4654122&xgallery=gallery&xpage=1#onglet

Afgelopen week­end, op twee adver­ten­ties gereageerd op de immoweb­site (raad­pleeg­baar http://www.immoweb.be: Apparte­ment te huur — Antwer­pen (n° 4643666) en Apparte­ment TE HUUR (N°4701012)).

Soort­gelijk ver­haal: bemeubelde apparte­menten, cen­trum Stad (Antwer­pen), super goed­koop te huren, all-in for­mule, in de pri­js­cat­e­gorie 450 — 500€/maand.
Huren in een groot­stad is natu­urlijk alti­jd veel duur­der dan de rand: aangezien ik in het cen­trum ook werk, leken deze aan­biedin­gen mij dan ook ’too good to be true’.
Maar goed, wie niet waagt..

De antwo­or­den die ik terugkri­jg, respec­tievelijk van een zek­er Jef­frey Dean en van een Vic­to­ria Wat­son:

Hel­lo,
I inher­it­ed the apart­ment from my grand­fa­ther i’m from Unit­ed King­dom so i decid­ed to rent it. Before we go fur­ther, i would like to know more about you, such as how many per­sons you intend to stay in the apart­ment and for how long , also if you can send me a pic­ture with you will be nice . I will be glad to rent it to any­one who likes to keep it clean and tidy . I can rent the flat for unlim­it­ed time ( 1 to 3 years maybe more ) . The rent for 1 month is EUR 500 includ­ing all util­i­ties , you can use my fur­ni­ture, or you can use your own at the same price . I can send my fur­ni­ture to a stor­age deposit if you want to bring your own . You can move in to the apart­ment imme­di­ate­ly , the only prob­lem is that I am the only per­son who has the keys and i’m in UK , but i have a solu­tion for that if you are still inter­est­ed . I want to tell you some­thing about me, first my vis­it card:

Name: Jef­frey J. Dean
Birth: 25/03/1963
Nacional­i­ty: British Cit­i­zen
Cur­rent adress: 20 Mor­den Road, Lon­don SW193BN, Unit­ed King­dom

Paar uurt­jes daar­na, de reply van onze Vic­to­ria:

Hi,
Thank you for your inter­est. I received your e‑mail regard­ing my apart­ment locat­ed in: Aren­bergstraat 1, 2000 Antwer­pen, with 2 bed­rooms, 1 liv­ing room, 1 kitchen and 1 bath­room. I pur­chased this nice apart­ment dur­ing a busi­ness trip to Bel­gium with the inten­tion of ren­o­vat­ing it to a lux­u­ry state, then reselling it, but due to the mar­ket block­age and the inter­na­tion­al cri­sis, it is impos­si­ble for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decid­ed to rent it. I am the only own­er of the apart­ment, it is paid in full and it has no legal prob­lems.

I wish to rent my apart­ment to some nice and respon­si­ble peo­ple and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many per­sons are you plan­ning to live in the apart­ment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. You should also know that I appre­ci­ate sin­cer­i­ty very much.

In addi­tion to every­thing else here is a lit­tle some­thing about the apart­ment and myself so we can get to know each oth­er.

The apart­ment is the one in the pic­tures from the adver­tis­ment. I have the option of send­ing all my fur­ni­ture into stor­age if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)

The rent for 1 month is 450 euro for the entire apart­ment includ­ing: (cold/hot water, elec­tric­i­ty, wire­less Inter­net, dig­i­tal TV, dish­wash­er, microwave, refrig­er­a­tor, wash­ing machine). Secu­ri­ty deposit is 450 euro, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apart­ment (you will have to give me at least 30 days notice). You can rent the flat for any peri­od of time (open end con­tract) but not less than 5 months.

Now, a lit­tle bit about myself so we can get to know each oth­er bet­ter. My name is Vic­to­ria Wat­son and I’m a 39 years old graph­ic design­er from Lon­don.

The only incon­ve­nience is that my job d oesn’t allow me to leave Lon­don even for one sin­gle day. We just hired some new staff and I’m in charge of their train­ing.

But this won’t affect you at all. I can make arrange­ments to rent the apart­ment from UK.

Look­ing for­ward to hear from you soon.
Vic­to­ria

Jam­mer genoeg heb ik wél een email terugges­tu­urd naar onzen Jef­frey en heb ver­meld waar ik werk. Wat me op de maag ligt..
Op Vic­to­ria heb ik niet meer gereageerd.

Spread the word, deze gang­sters zijn nog steeds bezig!

Thank you

Hey,
Ney als iedereen ben ik in con­tact gekomen met een oplichter, het ging om een apparte­ment in de min­der­broed­er­sstraat 10 te Antwer­pen. Het was 480€ huur met alles inbe­grepen en geen extra kosten… Ook ik kreeg een mail van ene Patrick Nielsen, toen ik de mail van TNT kreeg heb ik het mail adres via Google gaan check­en en kwam direct op een site uit waar het dus idd om fraude gaat! Weet dat TNT nooit als tussen per­soon werkt! Ook heb ik hen gemaild met de vraag of dit klopte en ze melde mij dat dit om fraude gaat!

Hel­lo,

I just read your e‑mail regard­ing my apart­ment locat­ed in : Min­der­broed­er­sstraat, 10, 2000 ANTWERPEN. It has 2 bed­rooms, 1 liv­ing room, 1 bath­room and 1 kitchen. I bought this apart­ment for my daugh­ter dur­ing her stud­ies in Bel­gium, but now she’s back home per­ma­nent­ly, so I’m rent­ing the place for unlim­it­ed time.
Before we go any fur­ther I would like to know a lit­tle some­thing about you, like how many per­sons you intend to live in the apart­ment, and for how long.The flat is exact­ly like in the pic­tures, ful­ly fur­nished and ren­o­vat­ed. Also, very impor­tant, the util­i­ties (cold/hot water, elec­tric­i­ty, wire­less broad­band Inter­net, dig­i­tal TV, 1 park­ing spots, dish­wash­er, garbage dis­pos­al, microwave, refrig­er­a­tor, wash­ing machine, etc.) are INCLUDED in the price of 480EURO/month. As for me, you can rest assured that I will nev­er ask you to leave the apart­ment. My daugh­ter is build­ing her life here, and i am too old to move to Bel­gium, so we won’t dis­turb you.
You can use my fur­ni­ture, or you can also use your own if you pre­fer. If you decide to use yours, you will have access to a very large and well ven­ti­lat­ed cel­lar, where you can store my fur­ni­ture.
Now, a lit­tle bit about myself so we can get to know each oth­er bet­ter. My name is Patrick Nielsen and I’m a 58 years old graph­ic design­er from Lon­don /United King­dom, plan­ning to retire in the next 2 years.
I have a love­ly wife,Sarah and a 25 year old daugh­ter, Maria. I am very proud to say that soon I’m going to be a grand­fa­ther :). Anoth­er mem­ber of our fam­i­ly is a 8 year old Labrador which we all love, so, I have no prob­lem if you will keep pets.
The only incon­ve­nience is that my job doesn’t allow me to leave Lon­don even for one sin­gle day. We just hired some new staff and I’m in charge of their train­ing.
But this won’t affect you at all. I can make arrange­ments to rent the apart­ment from Lon­don (on my expense of course).

Look­ing for­ward to hear from you soon.

All the best from Unit­ed King­dom!

Patrick Nielsen
1 Elm Grove,
Lon­don, SW19 4HE
Unit­ed King­dom

!! Nog een naam te melden van fraude op Immoweb !!
CAMMILE DURAND (durandrcammile@hotmail.com)
Adres van het aparte­ment: Bergens­es­teen­weg 56, 1500 Halle.

De pri­js leek in de eerste plaats te mooi om waar te zijn, maar ik dacht: toch maar eens con­tact opne­men. Reac­tie was in het Engels (en 2 zin­nen Frans). De inhoud van de mail (onn­odi­ge info over een zogezegde overleden echtgenoot die het apparte­ment bezat,$. Wie stu­urt zulke info nu in het 1e con­tact met een toekom­stige huur­der) bracht mij al op mijn hoede en Immoweb stu­urde zelf ook een waarschuwings­mail i.v.m. des­be­tr­e­f­fend zoek­ert­je. Ook op deze site terecht gekomen en heel veel herken­bare zak­en tegengekomen.
Even de test gedaan en gevraagd om het apparte­ment te bezoeken. Antwo­ord dat zij in Leeds, UK woont voor haar werk en de sleu­tel zal ops­turen via FedEx, nadat ik 1500 waar­borg + eerste maand huur heb betaald.

Het zoek­ert­je was overi­gens reeds ver­wi­jderd, nog voor ik reac­tie van haar kreeg.

Hal­lo, hier idem, het­zelfde ver­haal. Gis­teren reageerde ik ook via Log­ic Immo naar het apparte­ment in Antwer­pen in de Min­der­broed­er­sstraat 10, en kreeg ook deze e‑mail;

Hel­lo,

I just read your e‑mail regard­ing my apart­ment locat­ed in : Min­der­broed­er­sstraat, 10 , 2000 ANTWERPEN. It has 2 bed­rooms, 1 liv­ing room, 1 bath­room and 1 kitchen. I bought this apart­ment for my daugh­ter dur­ing her stud­ies in Bel­gium, but now she’s back home per­ma­nent­ly, so I’m rent­ing the place for unlim­it­ed time.
Before we go any fur­ther I would like to know a lit­tle some­thing about you, like how many per­sons you intend to live in the apart­ment, and for how long.The flat is exact­ly like in the pic­tures, ful­ly fur­nished and ren­o­vat­ed. Also, very impor­tant, the util­i­ties (cold/hot water, elec­tric­i­ty, wire­less broad­band Inter­net, dig­i­tal TV, 1 park­ing spots, dish­wash­er, garbage dis­pos­al, microwave, refrig­er­a­tor, wash­ing machine, etc.) are INCLUDED in the price of 480EURO/month. As for me, you can rest assured that I will nev­er ask you to leave the apart­ment. My daugh­ter is build­ing her life here, and i am too old to move to Bel­gium, so we won’t dis­turb you.
You can use my fur­ni­ture, or you can also use your own if you pre­fer. If you decide to use yours, you will have access to a very large and well ven­ti­lat­ed cel­lar, where you can store my fur­ni­ture.
Now, a lit­tle bit about myself so we can get to know each oth­er bet­ter. My name is Patrick Daech­er and I’m a 58 years old graph­ic design­er from Lon­don /United King­dom, plan­ning to retire in the next 2 years.
I have a love­ly wife,Sarah and a 25 year old daugh­ter, Maria. I am very proud to say that soon I’m going to be a grand­fa­ther :). Anoth­er mem­ber of our fam­i­ly is a 8 year old Labrador which we all love, so, I have no prob­lem if you will keep pets.
The only incon­ve­nience is that my job doesn’t allow me to leave Lon­don even for one sin­gle day. We just hired some new staff and I’m in charge of their train­ing.
But this won’t affect you at all. I can make arrange­ments to rent the apart­ment from Lon­don (on my expense of course).

Look­ing for­ward to hear from you soon.

All the best from Unit­ed King­dom!

Patrick Daech­er
1 Elm Grove,
Lon­don, SW19 4HE
Unit­ed King­dom

From: info@ipm.logic-immo.be
To: daecher774@hotmail.com
Sub­ject: Een gebruik­er van Logic-Immo.be heeft inter­esse in dit pand
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 06:25:30 +0100
Gelijkvlo­ers apparte­ment 2 slaap­kamers

Het heeft een ruime liv­ing met veel licht­in­val, open geďn­stalleerde keuken, 2 slaap­kamers, bad­kamer. Kelder­berg­ing en onder­grondse autostaan­plaats inbe­grepen in de huur­pri­js. Gelieve te antwo­or­den op mijn e‑mailadres voor mor info:
Bek­ijk de adver­ten­tie Ref. : LOGIC 54cb9d6389009297598b4568 (9055)

Gelukkig wist ik bij­na direct dat het hier weer om een han­delt­je ging omdat de mail in het Engels was, en door­dat een vriend van me ook op soort­gelijke adver­ten­tie over een pand, een soort­gelijk antwo­ord kreeg waar we toen ook al niet inge­trapt had­den door­dat ook die de waar­borg vroeg over te mak­en en hij dan de sleu­tels zou bezor­gen lat­er.
Maar toch heb ik hem een beet­je info ver­schaft om eens te zien wat zijn antwo­ord zou zijn door­dat ik hem dit ook had verteld over mijn vriend, het soort­gelijke antwo­ord als in deze mail en de fraude daar­rond. En dan ben ik gewoon zelf eens begin­nen opzoeken op het adres van dit pand in de Broed­er­s­min­der­straat 10 te Antwer­pen en zo kwam ik hier. Inmid­dels kreeg ik wél al terug antwo­ord van hem in deze mail;

Hi,

Thank you for your reply but the mat­ter is that I’m in Lon­don already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for one month of rent will be 480EURO, with no extra tax­es to pay. The mon­ey, I want to revive it month­ly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no prob­lem for you to wire the mon­ey to my bank account. The apart­ment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the con­tract to check it, and see if you like it.
Obvi­ous­ly we need a way to com­plete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to com­plete the deal safe­ly and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 3 days, if you move fast as well. The solu­tion is pro­vid­ed by a com­pa­ny called UPS which is sim­i­lar to FedEx, DHL or TNT, which will han­dle both pay­ment and deliv­ery of the Keys.
I have found a pro­ce­dure that will allow you to pay for the rent of the apt only after you will receive the keys of it and through this way you will see it and decide if you will stay in the apt or not before I receive my payment.Please click on the link bel­low to the UPS web­site to see how we can com­plete the deal safe­ly and fast direct­ly from the web­site of the com­pa­ny where the pro­ce­dure is explained: http://www.ups.com/content/gb/en/shipping/index.html?WT.svl=PriNav
Let me know if you are inter­est­ed please because I real­ly need to take care of this mat­ter by the end of this week or the begin­ning of the next one.

En nu ga ik nog even mee spe­len en intussen zet ik fraudebe­stri­jd­ing online achter de hele zwen­del aan, of wat doe ik hier het beste mee?

Groet­jes Saman­ta

Nog één­t­je tegengekomen: Simon Stamer. Doet zich voor als een 58 jaar man uit Praag.

Hier het­zelfde, was naar een apparte­ment op zoek op zom­mit en plots zag ik een apparte­ment voor 500 euro all in.
Had er een mail naar ges­tu­ur­den kreeg te horen dat hij een dochter had dat daar studeerde en nu ze gedaan had en nu het wou verkopen. Ik kri­jg bij­na een ken­nis­mak­ing van heel zijn fam­i­lie en mooie aan­biedin­gen dat ik zijn inboedel en al mocht gebruiken. Tot ik ineens op een site terecht kwam fraude op apparte­menten en bij­na juist het­zelfde ver­haal las dan dat hij mij door ges­tu­urd had. Gelukkig zag ik die site want anders was ik er mss wel inge­trapt. Dus mensen wees echt voorzichtig ze weten het alle­maal mooi uit te leggen.

Don’t trust this one, same sto­ry, scam emailadres… found the exact same respond emails online on scam warn­ers.

Re: Rent apart­ment in Rue des Pois­son­niers 12, 1000 Brus­sels City with 1 room, 60 m², 570 €

Hi,

Like I have informed you before, the apart­ment is cur­rent­ly free, I accept short-term 3 to 4 months and long-term dis­pos­al from 5–6 years or more this depends on your deci­sion. You can use my fur­ni­ture, or you can also use your own if you pre­fer. If you decide to use yours, you can store my fur­ni­ture in the large base­ment cel­lar. The price for 1 month of rent will be 570 euro with all the bills includ­ed in it, and I also need a guar­an­tee deposit of 1.000 euro (that you’ll get back when you move out). Now I’m liv­ing in Italy-Roma, but this will not influ­ence at all the rental as I am will­ing to send you the keys so you can vis­it it and see it if you like it. You will have 2 days avail­able to inspect the apart­ment before rent it. The deliv­ery of the keys and view­ing per­mit (signed by me), will be made through Airbnb.com to make sure that we can trust each oth­er. If you want to know more about the rental process please get back to me and I will send you the step by step pro­ce­dure. A quick response would be much appre­ci­at­ed.

Best regards,
Inger Mar­gare­ta