Immoweb oplichters: fraude met appartementen te huur. Let op!

Het verhaal van TIM gaat als volgt verder, heb eens een visje uitgeworpen om na te gaan hoe het verder verloopt. Hierna de mail die de fraude wel erg duidelijk maakt.

First of all , I want to tell you that if you are ready to proceed with this transaction I will need to inform you the steps about how this service works.

You will have 5 days to inspect the apartment before your final decision to rent. I will pay the shipping costs.

This is how they work :

1) I will make the delivery papers at International Home.

2) After I will make the papers for delivery they will require for your payment confirmation of the first month and the guarantee deposit( 450 EUR + 500 EUR= 950 EUR ) to the company. The shipping company will send you a delivery notification to let you know they that have the Keys and the papers in their custody, in which you will be told that they have the Keys/contract and that they checked it.

3) After the payment is confirmed the delivery process will start and when you will receive the keys, you will have 5 days inspection period before your final decision to rent.

4) If all is in order, you will instruct the shipping company to give me the money. Further rents will be sent directly to my bank account.

5) If you refuse to rent the apt , Int Home will give you a full refund (950 EUR) and you will give them back the keys and the contract.

If you are interested to rent the apartment please send me your information, i will need to know your full shipping information, full name, full shipping address to proceed with this deal.

The delivery company service its called : International Home ( international-home-ltd.co.uk.tc )

Now i must know for sure if you agree because other peoples are interested to have this apartment rented and i want to know for sure what i must tell them. If you agree what i suggested i will tell them that my apartment is already rented and i will keep it for you. If you agree then i must have all the shipping details so i will be able to make all the arrangements for the International Home.

Thank you for your interest and wait news from you.

Beste allen,

Op deze website heb ik meerdere e-mails gelezen, die precies een kopie zijn van de e-mails die ik heb ontvangen. In mijn geval heet hij Jan Veldhuijzen.

Het ging om een appartement aan de Rue de Rouleau 7, Brussel. Mijn mailcontact met hem heeft vandaag (12 mei 2012) plaatsgevonden. Ik had argwaan omdat hij maar in het Engels bleef communiceren, terwijl hij een Vlaamse naam heeft en ik aangaf dat we ook in het Nederlands konden communiceren. Verder kreeg ik argwaan, omdat de prijs te laag was en omdat hij dus ook via UPS de regeling wilde treffen.

Ik vertrouwde het niet helemaal en begon te googlen. Ik was ook van plan om UPS maandag te benaderen, want ik ben toch wel benieuwd of dit soort services door hen wordt aangeboden, Ik ben heel blij dat ik deze website tegen ben gekomen. Inmiddels heb ik deze oplichter gemeld bij http://www.ecops.be

Zie hieronder zijn reacties.

Hello,

I am Jan Veldhuijzen and I just received an email of interest in my apartment . I am an Belgian researcher working for a pharmaceutical company . I am the only owner of the apartment, it is paid in full and it has no legal problems . The apartment has not been inhabited since I am no longer living in Belgium.
I wish to rent my apartment to some nice and responsible people and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many persons are you planning to live in the apartment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. I must tell you from the beginning that I do not have a problem if you are a student and I am very fond of pets and willing to accept them in the apartment. You should also know that I appreciate sincerity very much.
In addition to everything else here is a little something about the apartment and myself so we can get to know each other.
The apartment is the one in the pictures from the advertisement.I have the option of sending all my furniture into storage if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)
The rent for 1 month is 620 Eur (for the entire apartment) including all utilities (water, electricity, Internet, cable). You can rent the flat for any period of time (open end contract) but not less than 2 months.
About myself, as I told you I am a researcher in pharmaceutical products, currently living in London.
You can move in the apartment in the same day when you receive the keys. The only issue is that I am already in United Kingdom but I hope that together we are going to find a solution.
I appreciate your interest in my property and I am looking forward to a future collaboration and friendship. I hope that you can send me some personal information about yourself.

Best regards
Jan Veldhuijzen

Hello ,

Thanks for your reply,
That sounds great !
I must let you know that I can rent the property for maximum 3 years. The minimum period is 2 months, but I’d rather like to rent it for a long term. You seem to be a very nice person and I can assure you we will not have any problems .Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for 1 month of rent will be 620 euro and i want aslo one month guarantee deposit 620 euro ( the guarantee deposit 620 euro you will receive back when you leave the apartment ), with no extra taxes to pay. The money, I want to recive it monthly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no problem for you to wire the money .

Of course you will have to see the apartment before discussing further details . I am willing to send you the keys so you can visit it and see it suits your needs. The delivery for the keys and viewing permit (signed by me), will be made with UPS to make sure that we can trust each other.
I will explain the procedure if you are interested so please e-mail me as soon as you read this message because I really need to take care of this matter.

Regards
Jan Veldhuijzen

Hello,
If we decide to proceed with this transaction, I will have to contact company UPS to provide all necessary information so they can begin the process immediately. We need full name, address, telephone number and if you have a copy of this ID. You will receive a notification from UPS company shortly thereafter, with all the instructions to follow and the invoice as well.
As regards payment, will be instructed to deposit money, first payment a month’s rent in advance + 1 one month warranty (EUR 1240) to an account of the company UPS. I need to pay in advance at the company UPS because I’m tired of people who are just looking around and not serious about hiring. UPS The Company will hold and secure the money until you check the apartment and decide if you want to take it or not. This is how their policy works buyer protection. As for me myself, I’ll be glad to know that company UPS has possession of money during the delivery. This is my insurance. Once the funds were deposited into their account, they will begin shipping process. The keys and rental contract will be delivered to your address in not more than 2 days. You will be given control over three days from the day you receive the keys and contract at home. If you decide to keep the apartment, then you will need to authorize the company UPS to release the funds for me and the transaction will be completed. If you are not satisfied with the apartment, you can send the keys and the contract and company UPS will return the funds to your same day.
Although I am sure you will love the apartment, it is good to know that you have this second option available. If you want to continue renting the apartment, please tell me your name and full address so I can start business immediately through the company UPS.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards.

Net dezelfde mail gehad voor een appartement in Gent:

Hi,

My name is David Urban and I just received an email of interest in my apartment located in Kouter 76, 9000 Gent, with 2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen and 1 living room. I purchased this nice apartment during a business trip to Belgium with the intention of renovating it to a luxury state, then reselling it, but due to the market blockage and the international crisis, it is impossible for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decided to rent it. I am the only owner of the apartment, it is paid in full and it has no legal problems.
I wish to rent my apartment to some nice and responsible people and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many persons are you planning to live in the apartment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. You should also know that I appreciate sincerity very much.
In addition to everything else here is a little something about the apartment and myself so we can get to know each other.
The apartment is the one in the pictures from the advertisment. I have the option of sending all my furniture into storage if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)
The rent for 1 month is 430 euro for the entire apartment including: electricity, Internet, cable tv, etc….heating will be pay by you depend of consumption. The security deposit is 500 euro and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment ( you will have to give me at least 2 moths notice ). I can rent you the flat for 5 years, and if after the five years you would like to stay more, then we can renew the contract. I can also rent it for short periods (5 months minimum)
About myself, I am 37 years and I am a researcher in pharmaceutical products, currently living in London, my home town .
You can move in the apartment in the same day when you receive the keys. The only issue is that I am already in United Kingdom but I hope that together we are going to find a solution.

I appreciate your interest in my property and I am looking forward to a future collaboration and friendship.

Best regards,

David

Ik heb hetzelfde voorgehad:

Hello,

I appreciate your intent of renting my apartment located in : Nassaustraat 11, 2000 Antwerpen , Belgium . The apartment have: 2 bedrooms, 1 bathrooms, 1 kitchen and 1 living room. I bought this apartment for my son during he studies in Belgium, but now he’s back home ( Bristol / United Kingdom ) permanently, so I’m renting the place for unlimited time. Before we go any furthe I would like to know a little something about you, like how many persons you intend to live in the apartment, and for how long. The flat is exactly like in the pictures, fully furnished equipped and renovated. Also, very important, the utilities water hot/cold, electricity, heating, gas, Internet, cable, parking space, dishwasher, garbage disposal, are included in the price of 520 Euro per month and I believe it is convenient for us both. All the bills will be paid by me and you have to pay only the money for the rent in every month. The security deposit is also 520 Euro, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment ( you will have to give me at least 2 moths notice ). As for me, you can rest assured that I will never ask you to leave the apartment. My son is building him life here and now he will go with him wife in Portugal to make them bussines, and about me I am too old to move to Belgium, so we won’t disturb you. You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. Now, a little bit about myself so we can get to know each othe better. My name is Peter Shawn and I’m a 61 years old Neuro-Oncology doctor from Bristol / United Kingdom ( North Bristol NHS Trust ), planning to retire in the next 5 years. I have no problem if you will keep animals. The only inconvenience is that my job doesn’t allow me to leave Bristol even for one single day. But this won’t affect you at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from Bristol (on my expense of course).

Thank you for your interest and I will look forward to hearing from you soon.

Peter Shawn

P.S: Please tell me if this is what are you looking for and reply my only if you are truly interested in the apt.

Deze week net hetzelfde verhaal tegen gekomen. Ik zag een mooi appartement te huur in Gent tegen een strakke prijs op immoweb. Direct contact opgenomen met de eigenaar en kreeg na enkele dagen een mail van een man uit London in mijn mailbox. (zo goed als letterlijk dezelfde mail zoals andere mensen kregen)

Ik wist van heel deze oplichterijen nog niks en ben beginnen mailen met de man. Hij stelde ook voor om de sleutels op te sturen naar België via een international cargo. Ik vertrouwde dit zaakje niet en heb hem voorgesteld om met een Belgisch Immokantoor te werken als tussenpersoon.. Sindsdien niks meer van hem gehoord. Deze middag zag ik op het nieuws wat er allemaal aan de hand was en ben ik zo ook op deze site terecht gekomen..

Het valt mij op dat bovenvermelde appartementen in Gent wel regelmatig terug keren op immoweb.. Allemaal oplichterij? Amai!

Hierbij de mails die ik kreeg:

Hi,

My name is Phillip Kendall and I received an email of interest in my apartment located in Martelaarslaan 534, 9000 Gent, with 2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen and 1 living room. I purchased this nice apartment during a business trip to Belgium with the intention of renovating it to a luxury state, then reselling it, but due to the market blockage and the international crisis, it is impossible for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decided to rent it. I am the only owner of the apartment, it is paid in full and it has no legal problems.
I wish to rent my apartment to some nice and responsible people and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many persons are you planning to live in the apartment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. You should also know that I appreciate sincerity very much.
In addition to everything else here is a little something about the apartment and myself so we can get to know each other.
The apartment is the one in the pictures from the advertisment. I have the option of sending all my furniture into storage if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)
The rent for 1 month is 450 euro for the entire apartment including: electricity, Internet, cable tv….heating will be pay by you depend of consumption. You can rent the flat for any period of time (open end contract) but not less than 5 months.
About myself, I am 37 years and as I told you I am a researcher in pharmaceutical products, currently living in London, my home town .
You can move in the apartment in the same day when you receive the keys. The only issue is that I am already in United Kingdom but I hope that together we are going to find a solution.

I appreciate your interest in my property and I am looking forward to a future collaboration and friendship.

Best regards,

Phillip

Thanks for your reply,

That sounds great !

You seem to be a very nice person and I can assure you we will not have any problems. The matter is that I’m in United Kingdom already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for 1 month of rent will be 450 euro but in the first month you must to deposit 950 euro, 1 month of rent plus 500 euro for security deposit payment which is refundable while packing without any lost or damage of my properties. The money, I want to revive it monthly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no problem for you to wire the money to my bank account.
Of course you will have to see the apartment before discussing further details because you cannot rent an apartment that you haven’t seen. I am willing to send you the keys so you can visit it and see it suits your needs.
The delivery for the keys and viewing permit (signed by me), will be made through an authorized courier and using a International Cargo is similar to FedEx, DHL or UPS, which will handle both payment and delivery of the Keys.
I will explain the procedure if you are interested so please email me as soon as you read this message because I really need to take care of this matter.

The apartment is like in the pictures!

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Best Regards,

Woensdag 13 Juni een mail terug ontvangen van jaja Peter Shawn ivm een appartement voor 350 euro in Brugge. Ondertussen is het zoekertje van immoweb verwijderd.

Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:20:17 +0300
Subject: Re: Immoweb – Reactie op zoekertje Te huur
From: per.shawn49@gmail.com

Hello,
I appreciate your intent of renting my apartment located in : Mallebergplaats 9, 8000 Brugge. The apartment have: 2 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 1 kitchen and 1 living room. I bought this apartment for my son during he studies in Belgium, but now he’s back home ( Bristol / United Kingdom ) permanently, so I’m renting the place for unlimited time. Before we go any furthe I would like to know a little something about you, like hed and renovated. Also, very important, the utilities water hot/cold, electricity, heating, gas, Internet, cable, parking space, ow many persons you intend to live in the apartment, and for how long. The flat is exactly like in the pictures, fully furnished equippdishwasher, garbage disposal, are included in the price of 350 Euro per month and I believe it is convenient for us both. All the bills will be paid by me and you have to pay only the money for the rent in every month. The security deposit is also 350 Euro, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment ( you will have to give me at least 2 moths notice ). As for me, you can rest assured that I will never ask you to leave the apartment. My son is building him life here and now he will go with him wife in Portugal to make them bussines, and about me I am too old to move to Belgium, so we won’t disturb you. You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. Now, a little bit about myself so we can get to know each othe better. My name is Peter Shawn and I’m a 59 years old Neuro-Oncology doctor from Bristol / United Kingdom ( North Bristol NHS Trust ), planning to retire in the next 5 years. I have no problem if you will keep animals. The only inconvenience is that my job doesn’t allow me to leave Bristol even for one single day. But this won’t affect you at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from Bristol (on my expense of course).

Thank you for your interest and I will look forward to hearing from you soon.

Peter Shawn

P.S: Please tell me if this is what are you looking for and reply my only if you are truly interested in the apt.

2012/6/10 immoweb

De 1e vastgoedsite van België, 134664 zoekertjes in België, 68558 zoekertjes in het buitenland, 1591285 foto’s.
Beste adverteerder, een bezoeker wenst meer info over Uw… Appartement TE HUUR N°3736087

OPLICHTING op immoweb: Appartement Nassaustraat 14 – 2000 Antwerpen! Appartement TE HUUR N°3783673
Email adres van de oplichter: aa2012nn@gmail.com

MAIL 1 OPLICHTER:

Hello,

Nassaustraatè14/5v 2000, Antwerp
see the map below. (attached folder)

Thank you for your interest. I am looking for someone to rent it as soon as possible, because I recently divorced and I’ve moved back to my country in London, UK . I am currently located in London so the renting period is unlimited, it means you can stay in the apartment as long as you wish, there is no minimum or maximum period required. The apartment looks exactly like in the pictures, it’s very clean and also full furnished and equipped with everything you need, you don’t have to bring anything. The rent for 1 month is listed in the ad, available for the whole apartment including all utilities. You can move in the apt in the same day when you receive the keys. Pets are allowed too (not recomended).

I will look forward to hear from you. Best Regards!

MAIL 2:

The apartment is still available, as I said I’m already in London UK and there is only one method we can make the deal right now. The total price you must pay right now will be 400 plus 400 security deposit, with no extra fees . You will send me the money every month here in uk if that’s ok with you. The apartment is ready , all you need is to receive the keys and the contract to review and sign it and you can move in right away.
We will use a shipping/escrow Real Estate Agency called Trulia for the safety of both parts, it’s a very well known and safe Agency all over Europe.

Let me explain you how the transaction will go step by step: first, I will go to them with the keys to start the shipping , after that you will be notified by them that the transaction has been initiated and they will send you all the instructions on how to complete the payment to their escrow agent. After they will have the confirmation of payment from you, they will deliver the package to your address and you will have to check the apartment to be sure that you like it .

So after you will see it if everything is as you expected so you must contact them to release me the money and we’re done . If everything sounds good for you please send me your full name and address and your phone number so we can start the procedure asap. You will receive the keys in maximum 3-4 working days .

Go to http://www.trulia-imb.co.uk to see and check the agency.
Thank you!

MAIL 3: Mijn antwoord + info die ik opvroeg bij Trulia (de organisatie waar hij mee zou samenwerken)

Hello,
I’m really interested in the apartment, but sending 800 euro to someone i dont know, makes me cautious. I looked up trulia and asked them for some info. See mail from trulia below.

Looking forward for your reply.

Regards
Jama

________________________________________
Van: Trulia Help Center [helpcenter@trulia.com]

Hi,
Thank you for contacting Trulia. We are a real estate search engine and do not participate in the transaction between renter and landlord. However, situations involving wire transfers and landlords that cannot meet you in person are red flags for scams and we encourage users to be cautious.

Based on the email sent to you by the ‘landlord’, it is very likely that this is a scam. It is recommended that you do not send any money to this person. Please respond to this email with the listing address for the rental that you are inquiring about so that we can remove this listing from the site.

MAIL 4: De reactie van oplichter

I don’t know what to say….
Trulia is 2-3 maybe 4 blocks away from my house.
They deal with this kind of stuff.
So I talked with them and they told me the steps

you send the delivery address, copy of id, they send a contract (European legit) you read, agree, yes or no. and send the first month plus security. You get the keys in one or or maybe 3 days, I don’t know exactly , you visit, you decide, you email them back with your decision, the money comes to me, a small fee to trulia, you are the new (owner), the house is all yours until next month :) or if you want to pay in advance, that’s OK.
If you don’t want to take it, just email them and the will refund the money, i’ll still pay a small fee to them but… that’s life, oh, and you send the keys back to my address.

Dit Klopt duidelijk niet!

Ook ik heb juist hetzelfde meegemaakt en vond het van het begin al behoorlijk louche. Het ging over een appartement in het centrum van Gent. Ene Gert Mulder zou dit verhuren. Ondertussen werd het zoekertje al van immoweb gehaald.
Hieronder de mails… Zeer vergelijkbaar met alle mails hierboven.

MAIL 1:

Thank you for your interest.As you can see I have available the apartment located in Keizer Karelstraat 65, 9000 Gent, with 2 bedrooms, 1 living room, 1 kitchen and 1 bathroom because I moved with my job in United Kingdom, London and I need money to pay the rent here.I purchased this nice apartment during a business trip to Belgium with the intention of renovating it to a luxury state, then reselling it, but due to the market blockage and the international crisis, it is impossible for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decided to rent it.I would be happy to rent it to somebody who likes keeping it clean and tidy.I can rent you the flat for 5 years, and, if after the five years you would like to stay more, then we can renew the contract.I can also rent it for short periods (2 months minimum).The rent for 1 month is 550EUR including all utilities (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless Internet, digital TV, 1 parking spot, dishwasher, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine).You can use my furniture, or you can use your own.You can move in the apt in the same day when you receive the keys. The only problem is that I `m the only person who have the keys but I hope that we will find a compromise.
Thank you for your interest and I will look forward to hearing from you soon.
Good luck,

MAIL 2:

Hi,

Thank you for your reply but the matter is that I’m in London already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for one month of rent will be 550EUR, with no extra taxes to pay. The money, I want to revive it monthly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no problem for you to wire the money to my bank account. The apartment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you like it.
Obviously we need a way to complete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 3 days, if you move fast as well. The solution is provided by a company called TNT which is similar to FedEx, DHL or UPS, which will handle both payment and delivery of the Keys.
I have found a procedure that will allow you to pay for the rent of the apt only after you will receive the keys of it and through this way you will see it and decide if you will stay in the apt or not before I receive my payment.Please click on the link bellow to the TNT website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the company where the procedure is explained: http://www.tnt.com/express/en_gb/site/home/services/express_delivery.html
Let me know if you are interested please because I really need to take care of this matter by the end of this week or the beginning of the next one.

Ik zet mijn zoektocht naar een niet-frauduleus appartement alvast verder…

Beste Hilde en alle anderen,

Indien u twijfelt over de echtheid van een Immoweb zoekertje raden we u aan om op de link “Meldt een vergissing” rechts naast het zoekertje te klikken, dan wordt dit zoekertje meteen gemeldt aan ons customer care team en gaan ze de echtheid na. Of u kan ook steeds een e-mail sturen naar cva@immoweb.be; een bericht plaatsen op onze Facebook pagina (http://www.facebook.com/Immmoweb) of ons benaderen via één van onze twee Twitter accounts (http://www.twitter.com/Immoweb voor de Nederlandstaligen of http://www.twitter.com/Immoweb_fr voor de Franstaligen).

Gelieve wel steeds het referentienummer van het zoekertje erbij te vermelden zodat we per direct de echtheid kunnen nagaan en indien nodig het zoekertje per direct kunnen verwijderen zodat andere Immoweb gebruikers zich niet in de maling laten nemen.

Begin deze maand rolden we een aantal verbeteringen door waardoor gevallen van phishing of identiteitsdiefstal (een hacker die het wachtwoord kraakt), en dergelijke meer tot een strikt minimum wordt herleidt. Helaas is het quasi onmogelijk om Immoweb 100% te vrijwaren voor mensen met slechte bedoelingen, doch doen we dagelijks onze uiterste best om alles zo correct mogelijk te laten verlopen zodat onze bezoekers niet de minste hinder kunnen ervaren.

Immoweb

Beste,

Ik heb 3 jaar geleden reeds hetzelfde meegemaakt op immoweb, en nu opnieuw hetzelfde. Ik stuurde de volgende 2 mails naar immoweb.

mail 1

Bij deze wens ik een verdacht zoekertje te melden.
Ik vermoed een fraude gezien ik dit in het verleden nogmaals heb meegemaakt op deze site.
Het gaat om zoekertje 3854678.
Redenen waarom ik fraude vermoed:
1) prijs is abnormaal laag;
2) verhuurder geeft geen mail of gsm;
3) tekst is overgenomen van de volgende advertentie die een koop advertentie is:
http://immo.vlan.be/nl/Detail/Appartement/te-koop/2800/Mechelen/(RAB37480), met uitzondering van een klein stuk tekst dat weggelaten is, waar dan opnieuw opvalt dat de vervoeging naar meervoud foutief is.
4) Op 1 van de foto’s in bijlage is het raamkozijn zwart aluminium daar waar het betreffende pand (terug te vinden op googlemaps) enkel witte ramen heeft.
Graag een reactie van jullie op deze mail.

mail 2:

Geachte,

De fraude die ik 3 jaar geleden meemaakte(die eveneens in mechelen was) ging als volgt tewerk:
Na contact met de zogenaamde verhuurder kreeg ik de melding van de zogenaamde verhuurder dat hij in het buitenland was.
Als ik toch het pand in kwestie wilde huren diende ik 2 maand waarborg over te maken waarna ik de sleutels zou krijgen die ik zogenaamd bij iemand in Mechelen zou kunnen gaan ophalen. (uiteraard ben ik hier niet op ingegaan)
Indien jullie je er ook van kunnen vergewissen dat het opnieuw om dezelfde soort van fraude gaat denk ik dat het ter beveiliging van jullie site nuttig zou zijn een melding te maken op https://www.ecops.be/webforms/Default.aspx om zulks een praktijken die waarschijnlijk door dezelfde persoon worden uitgevoerd in de toekomst te vermijden.

Na het lezen van deze site lijkt het probleem me inderdaad groter dan gedacht. Rekening houdende met het feit dat immoweb toch geld vraagt voor het plaatsen van een zoekertje lijkt het me toch een minimale dienstverlening dat ze de zoekertjes ook zouden nalezen en op deze wijze zouden screenen. Dit lijkt mij DE manier te zijn voor hun om zich te onderscheiden van de vele andere immowebsites!

Hi,

My name is Donald Attwood and I received an email of interest in my apartment located in Stoofstraat 2, 2000 Antwerpen, with 2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen and 1 living room. I purchased this nice apartment during a business trip to Belgium with the intention of renovating it to a luxury state, then reselling it, but due to the market blockage and the international crisis, it is impossible for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decided to rent it. I am the only owner of the apartment, it is paid in full and it has no legal problems.

I wish to rent my apartment to some nice and responsible people and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many persons are you planning to live in the apartment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. You should also know that I appreciate sincerity very much.

In addition to everything else here is a little something about the apartment and myself so we can get to know each other.

The apartment is the one in the pictures from the advertisment. I have the option of sending all my furniture into storage if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)

The rent for 1 month is 450 euro for the entire apartment including: electricity, Internet, cable tv…..heating will be pay by you depend of consumption. You can rent the flat for any period of time (open end contract) but not less than 5 months.

About myself, I am 37 years and as I told you I am a researcher in pharmaceutical products, currently living in London, my home town .

You can move in the apartment in the same day when you receive the keys. The only issue is that I am already in United Kingdom but I hope that together we are going to find a solution.

I appreciate your interest in my property and I am looking forward to a future collaboration and friendship.

Best regards,

Donald

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Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:52:58 +0200
From: info@immoweb.be
To: donald5attwood@hotmail.com
Subject: Immoweb – Reactie op zoekertje Te huur

De 1e vastgoedsite van België, 134531 zoekertjes in België, 86695 zoekertjes in het buitenland, 1779390 foto’s.

Beste adverteerder, een bezoeker wenst meer info over Uw… Appartement TE HUUR N°3857768

450 EUR
2000 Antwerpen
Stoofstraat 2
Uw referentie : 0

Deze bezoeker wil graag bijkomende info :

Opmerking van de surfer :

Ik ben uw zoekertje tegengekomen op Immoweb en het interesseert mij. Wanneer zou ik dit kunnen bezichtigen?

Alvast bedankt voor uw reactie,

Met vriendelijke groeten,

En kijk eens wat ik nou toevallig binnen kreeg ;)

Hi,

My name is Donald Attwood and I received an email of interest in my apartment located in Stoofstraat 2, 2000 Antwerpen, with 2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen and 1 living room. I purchased this nice apartment during a business trip to Belgium with the intention of renovating it to a luxury state, then reselling it, but due to the market blockage and the international crisis, it is impossible for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decided to rent it. I am the only owner of the apartment, it is paid in full and it has no legal problems.
I wish to rent my apartment to some nice and responsible people and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many persons are you planning to live in the apartment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. You should also know that I appreciate sincerity very much.
In addition to everything else here is a little something about the apartment and myself so we can get to know each other.
The apartment is the one in the pictures from the advertisment. I have the option of sending all my furniture into storage if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)
The rent for 1 month is 450 euro for the entire apartment including: electricity, Internet, cable tv…..heating will be pay by you depend of consumption. You can rent the flat for any period of time (open end contract) but not less than 5 months.
About myself, I am 37 years and as I told you I am a researcher in pharmaceutical products, currently living in London, my home town .
You can move in the apartment in the same day when you receive the keys. The only issue is that I am already in United Kingdom but I hope that together we are going to find a solution.

I appreciate your interest in my property and I am looking forward to a future collaboration and friendship.

Best regards,

Donald

Waarop na mijn antwoord dit volgde:

Dear Laura,

Thanks for your reply,

That sounds great !

You seem to be a very nice person and I can assure you we will not have any problems. The thing is that I’m in United Kingdom already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for 1 month of rent will be 450 euro but in the first month you must to deposit 900 euro, 1 month of rent plus 450 euro for security deposit payment which is refundable while packing without any lost or damage of my properties. The money, I want to receive it monthly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no problem for you to wire the money to my bank account. The apartment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you like it. Obviously we need a way to complete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 2 days, if you move fast as well. The solution is provided by a rental company called Trulia which is similar to FedEx or UPS , Escrow … etc, which will handle both payment and delivery of the Keys. I have found a procedure that will allow you receive the keys of it and through this way you will see it and decide if you will stay in the apt or not before I receive my payment. To start this transaction, I need your full name, address and telephone number. I will also need to know the rental period and the day you want to move in so I can put it in the contract. I will pay for the services of the agency, so there will be no extra costs for you. Also, in case you have another apartment right now, and you cannot move out immediately, we can make the deal as I explained it now, and consider it only an inspection and reservation.

PS: This is the pictures of the apartment:

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http://postimage.org/image/5ksdiwert/
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I am waiting for your quick response, because there are several others interested in the apartment, and I need to know if I can count on a deal with you.

Exact hetzelfde dus als voorgaande meldingen!

Ik heb weer geantwoord. Ook al weet ik dus dat dit er achter zit. Kijken of ik nu een gedetailleerder antwoord krijg op mijn vragen..

Groetjes, Laura

Lezers,

Helaas ben ik er in getuimeld en ben een hoop geld lichter.

Scammer van dienst; “Marie Medunova” Tsjechische in Liverpool.

Ondertussen verder gezocht naar een appartement in Brussel en opnieuw eentje gevonden. Deze keer Dhr. “Robert Gerard”, Brit uit Londen aan de andere kant; deze keer met de Door2Door scam.

Adressen : Kruidtuinlaand 38 en Generaal Gartrystraat 27 te Brussel.

Beiden worden uitgeprint en woensdag netjes overgedragen aan de politie.

Mocht iemand een betaalbaar (800euro) tweeslaapkamerappartement in Brussel weten, stuur zeker een berichtje!

Vriendelijke groet,

Matthias Van Steen
gedupeerde

No zo’n lokkertje zojuist ontvangen. Vond het te mooi om waar te zijn, dus maar even gaan googlen. Thanks voor de info mensen.

Hello,

Thanks for your interest, i bought this apartment for my son during he’s studies , but now he’s back home in London UK permanently, so i’m renting the place for unlimited time. Before we go any further i would like to know something about you, like how many persons you intend to live in the apartment, what is your job , how old are you and for how long you will stay . The flat is exactly like in the pictures, fully furnished equipped and renovated. Also, very important, the utilities water hot/cold, electricity, heating, gas, Internet, cable, parking space, dishwasher, garbage disposal, are included in the price of 350 eur per month and i believe it is convenient for both of us. All the bills will be paid by me and you have to pay only the money for the rent in every month. The security deposit is also 350 eur , and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment ( you will have to give me at least 1 month notice ). You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. I’m a Neuro-Oncology doctor from London – United Kingdom . I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from here fast and easy . I look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks

zelfde mail ontvangen….
1 Mail

Hi,

My name is Gordon Wendell and I received an email of interest in my apartment located in Wilderoosstraat 96, 9000 Gent, with 2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen and 1 living room. I purchased this nice apartment during a business trip to Belgium with the intention of renovating it to a luxury state, then reselling it, but due to the market blockage and the international crisis, it is impossible for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decided to rent it. I am the only owner of the apartment, it is paid in full and it has no legal problems.
I wish to rent my apartment to some nice and responsible people and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many persons are you planning to live in the apartment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. You should also know that I appreciate sincerity very much.
In addition to everything else here is a little something about the apartment and myself so we can get to know each other.
The apartment is the one in the pictures from the advertisment. I have the option of sending all my furniture into storage if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)
The rent for 1 month is 425 euro for the entire apartment including: furniture, Internet, cable tv, etc. You can rent the flat for any period of time (open end contract) but not less than 5 months.
About myself, I am 37 years and I am a researcher in pharmaceutical products, currently living in London, my home town .
You can move in the apartment in the same day when you receive the keys. The only issue is that I am already in United Kingdom but I hope that together we are going to find a solution.

I appreciate your interest in my property and I am looking forward to a future collaboration and friendship.

Best regards,

Gordon

2 Mail

Hi Frank,

Thanks for your reply,

The thing is that I’m in United Kingdom already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for 1 month of rent will be 425 euro but in the first month you must to deposit 850 euro, 1 month of rent plus 425 euro for security deposit payment which is refundable while packing without any lost or damage of my properties. The money, I want to receive it monthly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no problem for you to wire the money to my bank account. The apartment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you like it. Obviously we need a way to complete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 3 days, if you move fast as well. The solution is provided by a rental company called Trulia Real Estate which is similar to FedEx, UPS, Escrow … etc, which will handle both payment and delivery of the Keys.
I will explain the procedure if you are interested so please email me as soon as you read this message because I really need to take care of this matter.

The apartment is like in the pictures

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http://postimage.org/image/mxvv5x76d/
http://postimage.org/image/91l41vu9f/
http://postimage.org/image/u2rewo0yn/
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http://postimage.org/image/gfp4aqd4x/
http://postimage.org/image/pj3if159v/

Best Regards,

Hello, I saw your complaints and comments but too late! I got trapped in this fraud, unfortunately… I already filed my complaint to the police, I sent e-mail to the bank security to inform them for the fraud and to the Immoweb site. But until today there is no reply from them… Now I see that this person is again doing frauds in the Immoweb, so I contacted him again to get him on the hook and try to stop this.

Ze zijn nu actief op Speurders.
Appartementen op toplocaties in Amsterdam.

Deze week ben ik er al met 4 in contact gekomen.
Allemaal met bijna hetzelfde verhaal, terug naar Madrid, Engeland, enz.

Alice Hope, Antonia Estevez, Marisol Hernandez, Adam Harper, ect, ect.

Huur en borg moeten overgemaakt worden via een koerier, zoals UPS of Re-Max, en dan krijg je de sleutels om het appartement te kunnen bekijken. Dat krijg je zogenaam terug van het koeriersbedrijf als je het appartement niet zou willen.

Deze mensen bestaan niet en/of sturen nep-sleutels op en vervolgens ben jij al je geld kwijt!

Een voorlopig huurcontract, eigendomsbewijzen of persoonlijke gegevens wilden ze niet sturen voordat wij zouden betalen.

Deze mail kreeg ik nog eens, ik denk ook weer zelfde verhaal dus oppassen geblazen! :

Hello,
Sorry for my late reply and I’m sorry to write you in English but i don’t speak Dutch and also not French.
I just read your e-mail regarding my apartment: Korte Sint-Annastraat 8, 2000 Antwerpen.
The apartment is renovated last year and have 1 living room, 1 bedroom, kitchen and bedroom. The total surface of the apartment is 50 m2. Washing machine, dishwasher is available and also you can make changes in the apartment if you want like paint the walls. Water, electricity are included in the rent. Heating will be pay by you according of consumption.
The price is 450 Eur Monthly and 450 Eur security deposit refundable at the end of the contract!
Now, a little bit about myself: My name is Blandina Barrera Pineda and I’m a 50 years old work as researcher in medical field for Spanish government.
I bought this apartment for my daughter during her studies and practice in Antwerpen, but now she is back home in Spain permanently, so I am renting the place for any period time.
I’m a pet owner myself, so I will have no problem if you want to keep a pet in the house, as long as nothing is damaged.
Unfortunately, my job and don’t allow me to do any traveling for the next few months, so I will not be able to come and meet you personally for a while.
Since my daughter left Antwerpen, nobody is there to take care about renting it so I will pay a third party company to take care of delivery and payment.
All the payments will be send by bank transfer so you can have a record of your payments and also the bank transfer are easy traceable and safe.
I would like to know how many persons you intend to share the flat with, and for how long. Any other details about yourself would be appreciated.
So I guess this is it for now, I hope I didn’t forget anything.
Thank you for your interest and Friendly greetings!
Dr. Blandina Barrera Pineda
Calle padre xifre 3
Barrio prosperidad
Distrito chamartín
Madrid
28002
Spain

Dit zoekertje sprong ook direct int oog….alleen dacht ik ni aan oplichters maar da ze een nulleke te weinig hadden ingetikt en daarmee tussen de “goeiekopere” appartementen waren terechtgekomen……maar om de één of andere reden heb ik rond ongeveer 21u toch gereageerd……en een uurtje later al kreeg ik antwoord. Hij noemt zichzelf vandaag Greg Roben, greg2@mail.com en het staat op Zimmo.be…..

Hello,
First of all I’m sorry for the late reply but I had a lot to work and this is the time I could give you a message. From the site add, you could see, that the apartment located in: Meistraat 25, 2000 Antwerpen .I am looking for someone to live in it, as soon as possible, because my company has won the auction for a project, in construction, for a building that will rise up in England. I am a civil engineer, so my accommodation period in England will be about 4 years. The renting period is from 2 months upto 4 years. As a result of this I want to rent, for this period, at this price and also to find the perfect person for my apartment. I`m the owner of the apt and it’s like in the pics.
The apartment is furnished, but I have the option of sending all my furniture into storage if you want to bring your own (no extra costs). The rent for 1 month is € 450, but you must to deposit ( € 900/2months ) (for the whole apartment) including all utilities (water, electricity, Internet, cable, parking, air conditioning, fireplace, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator). You can move in the apt in the same day when you receive the keys. The only problem is that I`m the only person who has the keys but I hope that we will find a solution.
Thank you for your interest and I will look forward to hearing from you soon.
Please tell me if this is what are you looking for and reply my only if you are truly interested in the apartment

Ik heb het meegespeeld om te zien hoe of wa da er nu dan zou gebeuren…. dit was mijn antwoord….

Goedenavond Greg,

Ik ben zeker en vast geintereseerd….De waarborg is geen probleem en ik heb ook vast werk…Wanneer past het voor u om eens aftespreken dan?
Hoop dat ik vlug iets hoor van u!!

Ben eens benieuwd…..hoop da ze ze toch op de één of ander manier te pakken kunnen krijgen….Dit is zeer laag en gemeen …Moest ik da voorhebben, ik zou opt straat kunnen gaan slapen dan….zou gedaan zijn met zoeken dan….

Hoop dak wa heb geholpen…..
Byebye

A

Hallo, ik heb deze op immovlan gevonden en heb volgende email gekregen:

Hello ,

Thanks for your interest in wanting to be my tenant. I am looking for a responsible & clean tenant that will be able to take good care of my apartment because I work as architect (Building Designer) and I do travel a lot. Presently I am in United Kingdom for a project and I don’t know when I will return back to Belgium that’s why am looking for a Tenant who will live in the apartment and take care of it as i don’t want to sell it. The apartment is available for long term and short term lease is also accepted.
The apartment is located at Graaf van Egmontstraat 25,2000 Antwerpen.
It is furnished but if you need it unfurnished, i can order for the furniture be moved to storage. The rent is inclusive of the below listed utilities:
• High Speed Internet
• In-Suite Laundry
• Large in-suite storage
• Cable
Its a spacious and lovely 1-bedroom 1-bathroom furnished apartment, Utilities are included and Pets are allowed. Kitchen completely equipped, Kettle – Toaster – Dishwasher – Freezer – Microwave – Oven – Dryer – Heat – Water – Washing Machine and Electric.
I want you to note that I am a kind and honest man and also I spent a lot on my property that I want to give you for rent, so I will solicit for your absolute maintenance of the apartment and I would want you to treat it as your own, I would like you to keep it tidy all the time I also want you to let me have trust in you as I always stand on my word, the rental fees is € 400 per month, i require first and last month rent. As i am in United Kingdom with my work, we will use a real estate agency who will handles the delivery of the package to your address in Belgium and the other aspects of the transaction.
Find attached, some of the interior pictures of the apartment for you to know what the inside looks like.
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http://s13.postimage.org/akon2zi0n/chpk2178522_6.jpg
http://s13.postimage.org/4l0vzbx87/chpk2178522_7.
I will wait your reply as soon as possible.
Best Regards,
Patrik Klaus

Wize weet er meer over Roben Greg? Hij is architect en werkt in the UK. Zijn adres blijkt een hotel in London te zijn. Ze kennen hem niet. Had met het hotel gebeld en naar hem gemaild dat zijn telefoonnr niet bereikbaar is en gevraagd of hij me wilde bellen. 5 minuten later krijg ik telefoon van een kantoor zogezegd in London. Deze persoon vertelt me dat we enkel per email verder onderhandelen. Heb alle gegevens en het kantoor in België kent nog deze persoon en doet niet aan verhuur.

Net hetzelfde met FRANK DOUVEN in GENT Gevonden op IMMOWEB. Verschrikkelijk degoutant. Hoop dat ze hier ooit iets aan doen …

Hi,

My name is Frank Douven and I received an email of interest in my apartment located in Coupure 940, 9000 Gent, with 2 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 1 kitchen and 1 living room. I purchased this nice apartment during a business trip to Belgium with the intention of renovating it to a luxury state, then reselling it, but due to the market blockage and the international crisis, it is impossible for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decided to rent it. I am the only owner of the apartment, it is paid in full and it has no legal problems.
I wish to rent my apartment to some nice and responsible people and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many persons are you planning to live in the apartment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. You should also know that I appreciate sincerity very much.

In addition to everything else here is a little something about the apartment and myself so we can get to know each other.

The apartment is the one in the pictures from the advertisment. I have the option of sending all my furniture into storage if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)
The rent for 1 month is 500 euro for the entire apartment including: (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless Internet, digital TV, dishwasher, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine). You can rent the flat for any period of time (open end contract) but not less than 5 months.

About myself, I am 39 years and as I told you I am a researcher in pharmaceutical products, currently living in London, my home town.

You can move in the apartment in the same day when you receive the keys. The only issue is that I am already in United Kingdom but I hope that together we are going to find a solution.

I appreciate your interest in my property and I am looking forward to a future collaboration and friendship.

Best regards,

Beste blogbezoekers,

Bedankt voor de reeds vele meldingen onder dit blogartikel, dit maakt het ons makkelijker frauduleuze zoekertjes op te sporen en te verwijderen. We doen er alles aan om frauduleuze zoekertjes zoveel mogelijk van onze website te weren en rolden medio vorig jaar een resem verbeteringen door. Al zullen er steeds oplichters blijven die door de mazen van het net glippen, hoe hard we ook ons best doen. Sommige bedriegers gaan zelfs zo ver dat ze zich voordoen als werknemer van Immoweb!!

We herinneren onze website bezoekers graag aan enkele essentiële regels om een transactie veilig te laten verlopen:

1. Wees voorzichtig met panden waarvan de prijs te mooi is om waar te zijn.
2. In geval van twijfel, ga geen verbintenissen aan zonder het vastgoed op voorhand bezocht te hebben.
3. Wees extra voorzichtig indien het telefoonnummer of e-mailadres van de eigenaar u vreemd lijkt (verkeerd telefoonnummer, niemand antwoordt, geen telefoonnummer, …)

4. Stort of verstuur nooit geld als voorschot op de huur of om de sleutels te verkrijgen, zonder eerst de eigenaar of zijn vastgoedmakelaar te hebben ontmoet.
5. Wees op uw hoede, in het bijzonder wanneer gevraagd wordt om betalingen uit te voeren via Western Union of naar een buitenlandse bank, aangezien deze vaak anoniem zijn, waardoor het onmogelijk is om de begunstigden terug te vinden.

6. Immoweb treedt NOOIT of NOOIT op als tussenpersoon bij transacties tussen de kandidaat-koper of kandidaat-huurder en de plaatser van het zoekertje (immobiliënkantoor, notaris, eigenaar). Elk bericht dat het tegendeel beweert, is dus foutief.

Als u een frauduleus zoekertje op het spoor bent gekomen, kan u dit steeds melden door op de link “Meldt een vergissing” te klikken, rechts naast de foto van het pand zoals in onderstaand voorbeeld:http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7712/captureyue.jpg

Dagdagelijks analyseert onze technische dienst gerapporteerde “vergissingen” om eventuele fouten (bijvoorbeeld een verkeerd opgegeven gemeente) in een geplaatst zoekertje te wijzigen en/of frauduleuze zoekertjes zo snel mogelijk in de kiem te kunnen smoren. Gelieve alleszins geen enkel gevolg te geven aan dubieuze voorstellen!

Voor verdere informatie kan u steeds http://www.immoweb.be/nlraadplegen of contact opnemen met de Immoweb Customer Care op 02/333.25.06 of per email naar zoekertje@immoweb.be.

Voor verdere informatie kan u steeds http://www.immoweb.be/nlraadplegen of contact opnemen met de Immoweb Customer Care op 02/333.25.06 of per email naar zoekertje@immoweb.be.

Wij danken U voor uw vertrouwen in Immoweb.

Hoogachtend,

Immoweb

Hallo

Hier nog iemand om voor op te passen!
carol skelton (carol6skelton@hotmail.com)
het zelfde verhaal als bij de anderen.deze keer in gent coupure 940

Dit is het zoekertje
http://www.immoweb.be/nl/Rent.estate.cfm?idbien=X_4151259

en dit is de mail die we kregen

Hi,

Thank you for your interest. As you can see I have available the apartment located in Coupure 940, 9000 Gent, with 2 bedrooms, 1 living room, 1 kitchen and 1 bathroom. I purchased this nice apartment during a business trip to Belgium with the intention of renovating it to a luxury state, then reselling it, but due to the market blockage and the international crisis, it is impossible for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decided to rent it. I am the only owner of the apartment, it is paid in full and it has no legal problems.
I wish to rent my apartment to some nice and responsible people and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many persons are you planning to live in the apartment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. You should also know that I appreciate sincerity very much.
In addition to everything else here is a little something about the apartment and myself so we can get to know each other.
The apartment is the one in the pictures from the advertisment. I have the option of sending all my furniture into storage if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)
The rent for 1 month is 450 euro for the entire apartment including: (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless Internet, digital TV, dishwasher, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine). You can rent the flat for any period of time (open end contract) but not less than 5 months.
About myself, I am 35 years and I am a researcher in pharmaceutical products, currently living in London, my home town .
You can move in the apartment in the same day when you receive the keys. The only issue is that I am already in United Kingdom but I hope that together we are going to find a solution.

I appreciate your interest in my property and I am looking forward to a future collaboration and friendship.

Best regards,

Hopelijk heeft die geen andere mensen in de zak gezet.
En dankzij deze site ben ik er ook aan ontsnapt. Danku!

Dit is de mail die we zogezegt kregen van TNT

” Welcome to TNT Global Air Express

Our company is the WORLD market leader in Global Air Express and international mail services.

Third Party Service reduces risks associated with Internet transactions by acting as a licensed neutral third party for online transactions. The Owner delivers the package to one of nearest TNT Global Air Express agents for the evaluation of contents. The package will remain in the company custody until the receiver will send the payment by Priority Service Bank Transfer . After verifying the funds, TNT Global Air Express is ready to ship the parcel to the designated address.

NOTE: We order to avoid the earlier pick up of the funds by the shipper based on fact that he is aware of the sent payment – we are thanking you for choosing our third party service for your transactions – which will be revealed to the shipper along with all the transaction details after the delivery and your clearance. Consider this security measure if you have not dealt with the Owner before and you believe that this is in your best interest.

Owner Information
Full Name Carol Skelton
Address 44 Edgware Road
London, W2 1ED
Country United Kingdom
Status Approved
Tenant Information
Full Name XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Address XXXXXXXXXXXX
9000 Gent
Country Belgium
Status Approved
Shipment Information:

Service: TNT Global Air Express
Delivered In: 3 Days
Description of goods: Apartment Keys and Rental Contract verified signed by the Sender. All the papers are double checked.
Shipping & Handling: EURO 0,00
Immediate payment: EURO 900.00

NOTE: You will receive the Tracking Number after the payment is confirmed to us.

Payment Information:
The TNT Tenant Protection service guarantees to its customers full safety for their transactions by collecting, holding and disputing funds according to Tenant and Owner instructions. To enjoy the purchase protection, you must submit payment by Urgent Transfer (Priority Service Bank Transfer) to the following TNT Representative bank account. You will pay some additional fees but in this way we will be able to receive the funds in 24 Hours and we will start the shipping immediately.

How to send the payment:

Send the payment by Bank Transfer (Priority Service) using the following TNT Representative account Details :

TNT Representative Account Name : TNT Express
Beneficiary Bank Name : Barclays Bank
Beneficiary Bank IBAN : GB83 BARC 2047 3483 5617 39
Beneficiary Bank Account Number : 83561739 Sort Code: 20-47-34
Beneficiary Bank Swift Code : BARCGB22
Beneficiary Bank Address : 1221 Greenford Road
Beneficiary Bank City : Greenford,Middx
Beneficiary Bank Zip Code : UB6 0HY
Beneficiary Bank Country : United Kingdom

How to complete and confirm payment :

1.The payment must be sent by bank transfer to the bank account of our TNT Representative.
2. After payment is complete send us the receipt from your bank by e-mail ( contact@tnt-express-tnt.com ).
3. E-mail us the serial numbers of the payment receipt document.

*** Once the bank transfer clears and our TNT Representative confirms payment, we will start the shipping process. We will hold the funds until you send us your confirmation that you are satisfied with the Apartment . As soon as we receive your confirmation we will release payment to the Owner.”

Wel met mooie opmaak en logo’s enzo.

Hey iedereen,

Onlangs heeft mijn vriend ook een – onrealistisch – zoekertje gevonden op de website van Immoweb voor een appartement te Leuven. Hij dacht wel dat er een addertje onder het gras moest schuilen, maar heeft toch maar een mailtje gestuurd uit nieuwsgierigheid. Meteen kreeg hij een mail terug in het Engels van een zogenaamde Olivier Brunet; het bevat een typisch verhaal zoals ik hierboven vaak heb gelezen. Ik copy-paste het even:

“Hi,

Thank you for your interest. As you can see I have available the apartment located in: Jan-Pieter Minckelersstraat 38, 3000 Leuven – Belgium, with 2 bedrooms, 1 living room, 1 kitchen and 2 bathrooms. I purchased this nice apartment 4 years ago when i moved to Belgium with my work (i am a construction engineer), but my company finished his projects in Belgium and now i am back in my country, United Kingdom and i live in Bristol. I renovated and bought new furniture, all appliance are new and i was thinking to reselling it, but due to the market blockage and the international crisis, it is impossible for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decided to rent it. Before we go any further I would like to know a little something about you, like how many persons you intend to live in the apartment, and for how long. I would be happy to rent it to somebody who likes keeping it clean and tidy. I can rent you the flat for 5 years, and, if after the 5 years you would like to stay more, then we can renew the contract. I can also rent it for short periods (1-2 months minimum). The rent for 1 month is 390 EUR including all utilities (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless Internet, digital TV, 1 parking spot ,air conditioning, dishwasher, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine). You can use my furniture, or you can use your own. I have the option of sending all my furniture into storage if you want to bring your own (no extra costs). You can move in the apt in the same day when you receive the keys. The only problem is that I `m the only person who have the keys but I hope that we will find a compromise. Thank you for your interest and I will look forward to hearing from you soon.

Thank you,”

Je ziet meteen de vaak terugkerende elementen na het lezen van de meeste reacties op deze website.

Nu vind ik het toch wel zeer opmerkelijk dat er meer dan twee jaar gepasseerd is, immers de eerste reacties van slachtoffers hier dateren van 2011, en Immoweb nog steeds geen buffer heeft kunnen bieden tegen deze oplichters? Voor “De 1e vastgoedsite van België” is dit toch echt wel niet kunnen?
Ik zie hier af en toe een reactie verschijnen van een of ander medewerker van Immoweb, waarin hij meldt dat de technische dienst dagelijks op zoek gaat naar frauduleuze zoekertjes etc. Maar is dit nu werkelijk een permanente oplossing? Blijkbaar niet, aangezien het probleem zich steeds blijft voordoen.

De manier waarop Immoweb hiermee omspringt vind ik dan persoonlijk zeer onprofessioneel en het getuigt voor mij een groot gebrek aan respect voor de bezoekers van de website.

Nu vraag ik me af of je het probleem niet voor een groot deel zou kunnen voorkomen door simpelweg enkele voorlichtingen op de voorpagina van Immoweb te plaatsen, dan eerder de schade te proberen “genezen” met nadien op zoek te gaan naar zoekertjes die mogelijk frauduleus zijn?

Ik lees hier een opsomming van enkele essentiële regels om een transactie veilig te laten verlopen, maar waarom kan men deze niet op de eigen website terugvinden?
Is het niet veel effectiever om een dergelijke voorzorgsmaatregel op te stellen op de voorpagina, waarin je een groot publiek bereikt & behoed van “het kwade? Naar mijn mening is dit toch een voor de hand liggende uitweg?

Hoe dan ook, ik hoop dat er snel wat doelmatige acties worden ondernomen en dat het probleem hiermee grotendeels kan worden verholpen.

Groetjes,

D.

Hetzelfde verhaal hier in Gent, met Kevin Nichifor voor een appartement te Koningstraat 3 voor 450 all-in.

Hetzelfde hier !: 2de mail

Hi there,

I have given a great deal of thought about this and I think that sending the keys is not such a good idea. I want to use a third party to handle this for us and I hope it’s ok for you, too.
I want to use the Royal Mail Company. They are a well known company all over the world. So, I went to their office in Edinburgh and I told them that I want to rent my apartment and they told me that they have a new service i can use.
I’ve already paid the fees (GBP 200).

So, here is how it goes:
I start over the process with Royal Mail here in Edinburgh and I leave the keys and a copy of the contract at Royal Mail.Then they’ll e-mail you all the information you need to continue the transaction at your end. As per the Royal Mail`s instructions you send the funds to Royal Mail and then Royal Mail will FedEx-overnight the keys and the contract to you. Then you look around the apartment and decide whether take it or not. If you decide not to rent the apartment Royal Mail will refund you within 24 hours and you return the keys to me. It’s clear and simple. This is the only way to do it given the circumstances and that is an overseas rental process. All I want is to both be safe.

The deposit you have to send it’s EUR 1,200 and it’s for the first 2 months and for the security deposit. This is the Royal Mail Service I am talking about, read the Phase 1 and Phase 2 to better understand the process: http://24h-royalmaildelivery.info/royalmail.com/portal/rm/webship.high.html

Should i begin the process with Royal Mail? Please e-mail me and let me know and tomorrow you could have the keys in hand if you complete your end in a timely fashion.

Thank you,
Robin

Er staat een zogezegd appartement op Immoweb, 500 euro, Willekensmolenstraat na te hebben gemaild. Van ene Robert Schweizer, 44 Edgroad London. Jammer, want het leek een droomkans. Echt een droomkans dus.

Beste. Jammergenoeg blijven deze oplichters bezig op immoweb. Deze keer een Appartement in Brussel – emailcommunicatie van viviennemercier@outlook.com wonende te UK

Vivienne Mervier
68 High Street
Ponders End Enfield,
Greater London
EN3 4ER
United Kingdom

Oppassen dus…

Ik heb allemaal exact dezelfde mails gekregen van deze ms. Mercier. Het grappige is dat ze in haar voetnoot haar achternaam al fout schrijft, namelijk als Mervier. Ik ben zo blij dat ik deze site heb gevonden want mijn vriend en ik waren en zo goed als zeker van overtuigd!

Op 5-nov.-2013 om 23:12 heeft Vivienne Mercier het volgende geschreven:

Hello ,
Thanks for your reply, but the problem is that I am already in United Kingdom. As I informed you, the price you will have to pay the first month rent of 400 + 400 EUR deposit (800 EUR), with no additional fees . I need from you one month rent plus deposit. I want to receive the money monthly in my bank account. I trust that there is no problem for you to send money to my bank account . The apartment is ready , you just need to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you can accept it. Of course we will need some way to go through this agreement, to allow us ensure that we get what we are expecting. For in it, I have discovered how we could finish the deal securely and quickly, and in this way, you will receive the keys in less than 2 days, if you move quickly as well. A rental third party service called OneHomeLimited , offers this solution and will handle both payment and delivery of the keys.In this way, you may see it and decide if you want to live in the apartment or not, before I receive any payment. To start this transaction, I need your full name, address, city, postcode and country . I will also have to know the rental period and the day you want to move in, so I can put it in the contract. I will pay for the services performed by the agency, so there will not be any additional cost to you. In addition, if you have another apartment right now, and you cannot move out immediately, we can come to an agreement as I have explained here, and consider it only an inspection and reservation.I will wait your quick response, because there are other people waiting for my answer too, so i need to know if I can count on a deal with you . Thank You

Ms Vivienne Mervier
68 High Street
Ponders End Enfield,
Greater London
EN3 4ER
United Kingdom

Nog een oplichter http://www.immoweb.be/nl/Rent.Estate.cfm?IdBien=4654122&xgallery=gallery&xpage=1#onglet

Afgelopen weekend, op twee advertenties gereageerd op de immowebsite (raadpleegbaar http://www.immoweb.be: Appartement te huur – Antwerpen (n° 4643666) en Appartement TE HUUR (N°4701012)).

Soortgelijk verhaal: bemeubelde appartementen, centrum Stad (Antwerpen), super goedkoop te huren, all-in formule, in de prijscategorie 450 – 500€/maand.
Huren in een grootstad is natuurlijk altijd veel duurder dan de rand: aangezien ik in het centrum ook werk, leken deze aanbiedingen mij dan ook ’too good to be true’.
Maar goed, wie niet waagt..

De antwoorden die ik terugkrijg, respectievelijk van een zeker Jeffrey Dean en van een Victoria Watson:

Hello,
I inherited the apartment from my grandfather i’m from United Kingdom so i decided to rent it. Before we go further, i would like to know more about you, such as how many persons you intend to stay in the apartment and for how long , also if you can send me a picture with you will be nice . I will be glad to rent it to anyone who likes to keep it clean and tidy . I can rent the flat for unlimited time ( 1 to 3 years maybe more ) . The rent for 1 month is EUR 500 including all utilities , you can use my furniture, or you can use your own at the same price . I can send my furniture to a storage deposit if you want to bring your own . You can move in to the apartment immediately , the only problem is that I am the only person who has the keys and i’m in UK , but i have a solution for that if you are still interested . I want to tell you something about me, first my visit card:

Name: Jeffrey J. Dean
Birth: 25/03/1963
Nacionality: British Citizen
Current adress: 20 Morden Road, London SW193BN, United Kingdom

Paar uurtjes daarna, de reply van onze Victoria:

Hi,
Thank you for your interest. I received your e-mail regarding my apartment located in: Arenbergstraat 1, 2000 Antwerpen, with 2 bedrooms, 1 living room, 1 kitchen and 1 bathroom. I purchased this nice apartment during a business trip to Belgium with the intention of renovating it to a luxury state, then reselling it, but due to the market blockage and the international crisis, it is impossible for me to sell it right now, so I’ve decided to rent it. I am the only owner of the apartment, it is paid in full and it has no legal problems.

I wish to rent my apartment to some nice and responsible people and in order to do that I have to know a some details about you, like how many persons are you planning to live in the apartment, for how long, if you have a steady income, etc. You should also know that I appreciate sincerity very much.

In addition to everything else here is a little something about the apartment and myself so we can get to know each other.

The apartment is the one in the pictures from the advertisment. I have the option of sending all my furniture into storage if you want to bring your own (no extra costs)

The rent for 1 month is 450 euro for the entire apartment including: (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless Internet, digital TV, dishwasher, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine). Security deposit is 450 euro, and you get it back, when you decide to leave the apartment (you will have to give me at least 30 days notice). You can rent the flat for any period of time (open end contract) but not less than 5 months.

Now, a little bit about myself so we can get to know each other better. My name is Victoria Watson and I’m a 39 years old graphic designer from London.

The only inconvenience is that my job d oesn’t allow me to leave London even for one single day. We just hired some new staff and I’m in charge of their training.

But this won’t affect you at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from UK.

Looking forward to hear from you soon.
Victoria

Jammer genoeg heb ik wél een email teruggestuurd naar onzen Jeffrey en heb vermeld waar ik werk. Wat me op de maag ligt..
Op Victoria heb ik niet meer gereageerd.

Spread the word, deze gangsters zijn nog steeds bezig!

Thank you

Hey,
Ney als iedereen ben ik in contact gekomen met een oplichter, het ging om een appartement in de minderbroedersstraat 10 te Antwerpen. Het was 480€ huur met alles inbegrepen en geen extra kosten… Ook ik kreeg een mail van ene Patrick Nielsen, toen ik de mail van TNT kreeg heb ik het mail adres via Google gaan checken en kwam direct op een site uit waar het dus idd om fraude gaat! Weet dat TNT nooit als tussen persoon werkt! Ook heb ik hen gemaild met de vraag of dit klopte en ze melde mij dat dit om fraude gaat!

Hello,

I just read your e-mail regarding my apartment located in : Minderbroedersstraat, 10, 2000 ANTWERPEN. It has 2 bedrooms, 1 living room, 1 bathroom and 1 kitchen. I bought this apartment for my daughter during her studies in Belgium, but now she’s back home permanently, so I’m renting the place for unlimited time.
Before we go any further I would like to know a little something about you, like how many persons you intend to live in the apartment, and for how long.The flat is exactly like in the pictures, fully furnished and renovated. Also, very important, the utilities (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless broadband Internet, digital TV, 1 parking spots, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine, etc.) are INCLUDED in the price of 480EURO/month. As for me, you can rest assured that I will never ask you to leave the apartment. My daughter is building her life here, and i am too old to move to Belgium, so we won’t disturb you.
You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. If you decide to use yours, you will have access to a very large and well ventilated cellar, where you can store my furniture.
Now, a little bit about myself so we can get to know each other better. My name is Patrick Nielsen and I’m a 58 years old graphic designer from London /United Kingdom, planning to retire in the next 2 years.
I have a lovely wife,Sarah and a 25 year old daughter, Maria. I am very proud to say that soon I’m going to be a grandfather :). Another member of our family is a 8 year old Labrador which we all love, so, I have no problem if you will keep pets.
The only inconvenience is that my job doesn’t allow me to leave London even for one single day. We just hired some new staff and I’m in charge of their training.
But this won’t affect you at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from London (on my expense of course).

Looking forward to hear from you soon.

All the best from United Kingdom!

Patrick Nielsen
1 Elm Grove,
London, SW19 4HE
United Kingdom

!! Nog een naam te melden van fraude op Immoweb !!
CAMMILE DURAND (durandrcammile@hotmail.com)
Adres van het apartement: Bergensesteenweg 56, 1500 Halle.

De prijs leek in de eerste plaats te mooi om waar te zijn, maar ik dacht: toch maar eens contact opnemen. Reactie was in het Engels (en 2 zinnen Frans). De inhoud van de mail (onnodige info over een zogezegde overleden echtgenoot die het appartement bezat,$. Wie stuurt zulke info nu in het 1e contact met een toekomstige huurder) bracht mij al op mijn hoede en Immoweb stuurde zelf ook een waarschuwingsmail i.v.m. desbetreffend zoekertje. Ook op deze site terecht gekomen en heel veel herkenbare zaken tegengekomen.
Even de test gedaan en gevraagd om het appartement te bezoeken. Antwoord dat zij in Leeds, UK woont voor haar werk en de sleutel zal opsturen via FedEx, nadat ik 1500 waarborg + eerste maand huur heb betaald.

Het zoekertje was overigens reeds verwijderd, nog voor ik reactie van haar kreeg.

Hallo, hier idem, hetzelfde verhaal. Gisteren reageerde ik ook via Logic Immo naar het appartement in Antwerpen in de Minderbroedersstraat 10, en kreeg ook deze e-mail;

Hello,

I just read your e-mail regarding my apartment located in : Minderbroedersstraat, 10 , 2000 ANTWERPEN. It has 2 bedrooms, 1 living room, 1 bathroom and 1 kitchen. I bought this apartment for my daughter during her studies in Belgium, but now she’s back home permanently, so I’m renting the place for unlimited time.
Before we go any further I would like to know a little something about you, like how many persons you intend to live in the apartment, and for how long.The flat is exactly like in the pictures, fully furnished and renovated. Also, very important, the utilities (cold/hot water, electricity, wireless broadband Internet, digital TV, 1 parking spots, dishwasher, garbage disposal, microwave, refrigerator, washing machine, etc.) are INCLUDED in the price of 480EURO/month. As for me, you can rest assured that I will never ask you to leave the apartment. My daughter is building her life here, and i am too old to move to Belgium, so we won’t disturb you.
You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. If you decide to use yours, you will have access to a very large and well ventilated cellar, where you can store my furniture.
Now, a little bit about myself so we can get to know each other better. My name is Patrick Daecher and I’m a 58 years old graphic designer from London /United Kingdom, planning to retire in the next 2 years.
I have a lovely wife,Sarah and a 25 year old daughter, Maria. I am very proud to say that soon I’m going to be a grandfather :). Another member of our family is a 8 year old Labrador which we all love, so, I have no problem if you will keep pets.
The only inconvenience is that my job doesn’t allow me to leave London even for one single day. We just hired some new staff and I’m in charge of their training.
But this won’t affect you at all. I can make arrangements to rent the apartment from London (on my expense of course).

Looking forward to hear from you soon.

All the best from United Kingdom!

Patrick Daecher
1 Elm Grove,
London, SW19 4HE
United Kingdom

From: info@ipm.logic-immo.be
To: daecher774@hotmail.com
Subject: Een gebruiker van Logic-Immo.be heeft interesse in dit pand
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 06:25:30 +0100
Gelijkvloers appartement 2 slaapkamers

Het heeft een ruime living met veel lichtinval, open geďnstalleerde keuken, 2 slaapkamers, badkamer. Kelderberging en ondergrondse autostaanplaats inbegrepen in de huurprijs. Gelieve te antwoorden op mijn e-mailadres voor mor info:
Bekijk de advertentie Ref. : LOGIC 54cb9d6389009297598b4568 (9055)

Gelukkig wist ik bijna direct dat het hier weer om een handeltje ging omdat de mail in het Engels was, en doordat een vriend van me ook op soortgelijke advertentie over een pand, een soortgelijk antwoord kreeg waar we toen ook al niet ingetrapt hadden doordat ook die de waarborg vroeg over te maken en hij dan de sleutels zou bezorgen later.
Maar toch heb ik hem een beetje info verschaft om eens te zien wat zijn antwoord zou zijn doordat ik hem dit ook had verteld over mijn vriend, het soortgelijke antwoord als in deze mail en de fraude daarrond. En dan ben ik gewoon zelf eens beginnen opzoeken op het adres van dit pand in de Broedersminderstraat 10 te Antwerpen en zo kwam ik hier. Inmiddels kreeg ik wél al terug antwoord van hem in deze mail;

Hi,

Thank you for your reply but the matter is that I’m in London already. Like I have inform you before, the price you shall pay for one month of rent will be 480EURO, with no extra taxes to pay. The money, I want to revive it monthly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no problem for you to wire the money to my bank account. The apartment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you like it.
Obviously we need a way to complete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. In order of that I have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 3 days, if you move fast as well. The solution is provided by a company called UPS which is similar to FedEx, DHL or TNT, which will handle both payment and delivery of the Keys.
I have found a procedure that will allow you to pay for the rent of the apt only after you will receive the keys of it and through this way you will see it and decide if you will stay in the apt or not before I receive my payment.Please click on the link bellow to the UPS website to see how we can complete the deal safely and fast directly from the website of the company where the procedure is explained: http://www.ups.com/content/gb/en/shipping/index.html?WT.svl=PriNav
Let me know if you are interested please because I really need to take care of this matter by the end of this week or the beginning of the next one.

En nu ga ik nog even mee spelen en intussen zet ik fraudebestrijding online achter de hele zwendel aan, of wat doe ik hier het beste mee?

Groetjes Samanta

Nog ééntje tegengekomen: Simon Stamer. Doet zich voor als een 58 jaar man uit Praag.

Hier hetzelfde, was naar een appartement op zoek op zommit en plots zag ik een appartement voor 500 euro all in.
Had er een mail naar gestuurden kreeg te horen dat hij een dochter had dat daar studeerde en nu ze gedaan had en nu het wou verkopen. Ik krijg bijna een kennismaking van heel zijn familie en mooie aanbiedingen dat ik zijn inboedel en al mocht gebruiken. Tot ik ineens op een site terecht kwam fraude op appartementen en bijna juist hetzelfde verhaal las dan dat hij mij door gestuurd had. Gelukkig zag ik die site want anders was ik er mss wel ingetrapt. Dus mensen wees echt voorzichtig ze weten het allemaal mooi uit te leggen.

Don’t trust this one, same story, scam emailadres… found the exact same respond emails online on scam warners.

Re: Rent apartment in Rue des Poissonniers 12, 1000 Brussels City with 1 room, 60 m², 570 €

Hi,

Like I have informed you before, the apartment is currently free, I accept short-term 3 to 4 months and long-term disposal from 5-6 years or more this depends on your decision. You can use my furniture, or you can also use your own if you prefer. If you decide to use yours, you can store my furniture in the large basement cellar. The price for 1 month of rent will be 570 euro with all the bills included in it, and I also need a guarantee deposit of 1.000 euro (that you’ll get back when you move out). Now I’m living in Italy-Roma, but this will not influence at all the rental as I am willing to send you the keys so you can visit it and see it if you like it. You will have 2 days available to inspect the apartment before rent it. The delivery of the keys and viewing permit (signed by me), will be made through Airbnb.com to make sure that we can trust each other. If you want to know more about the rental process please get back to me and I will send you the step by step procedure. A quick response would be much appreciated.

Best regards,
Inger Margareta